Airliners crash

[jarhead]

Last update: August 24, 2004 at 5:05 PM
2 Russian airliners crash; more than 100 aboard
Associated Press
August 24, 2004 RUSSIA0825
MOSCOW -- Two Russian airliners carrying a total of more than 100 people crashed south of Moscow, the ITAR-Tass news agency reported Tuesday. There was no word on survivors.

The first plane was carrying 54 passengers and a crew of eight when it crashed in the Tula region near the village of Buchalki, the agency said, citing a duty officer at the regional center for civil defense and emergencies. The Tula region is about 110 miles south of Moscow.

The second plane was carrying 44 people when it crashed near Rostov, the agency said, citing an Inter-State Aviation Committee official. Rostov is about 600 miles south of Moscow.

Both planes were Tupolev Tu-154 jets, a medium-range airliner.

 

[EagleRJ]

The Tu-134/154 is a Flying Deathtrap if there ever was one! I wouldn't fly one or fly on one again if it was the only thing available. I speak from experience here.

It's the safety record of that plane that is sinking the Russians' efforts to enter the mainstream civil aircraft market today. Even with Western engines and avionics, buyers are gun shy.

 

[Jump Pilot]

The Clinton News Network is reporting that both aircraft departed the same airport.

Purely speculation, but give me the Chechen rebel on this one.

 

[jarhead]

Fox News with Shephard Smith reported that the U.S. ambassador to Russia has stated that they now are looking into the possibility that terror may have been involved, given that the two planes went down hundreds of miles apart at essentially the same time.

 

[chperplt]

into the possibility that terror may have been involved

Why attack Russia?? Has Russia been the target of terror attacks in the past?

 

[deez_nutz2000]

You've never heard of the conflicts between Russia and Chechnya?
Chechen rebels are dirty, muslim extremists...no better than their Arab counterparts. Didn't you ever hear about the theater that was taken hostage 2 years ago in Moscow?
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/25/moscow.siege/

Wouldn't put it past these dirtbags..

 

[350DRIVER]

Safety record?

This is purely speculation but I highly doubt these two crashes are related to the safety record of this aircraft. Same airport, both off radar within 3 minutes of each other falling out of the sky, come on...



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[Vladimir Lenin]

my money's on Checnens or some derivative of

-134 went down in two pieces, after a mid-air explosion (AP)

 

[Boeingman]

Uh oh, not good. "Disappeared at the same time". God bless the families.

 

[jarhead]

Why attack Russia?? Has Russia been the target of terror attacks in the past?

Recent terror-related explosions in Russia
Associated Press
August 25, 2004 RUSSIABLASTS0825
MOSCOW -- A list of terror-related explosions in Russia since December 2002:
2004:
- May 9: A bomb rips through a stadium in the Chechen capital, Grozny, during a Victory Day ceremony, killing provincial President Akhmad Kadyrov, the Kremlin's point man for efforts to control separatist violence in the war-wracked region. As many as 24 people are killed. A Chechen warlord claimed responsibility.
- Feb. 6: Explosion rips through a subway car in the Moscow metro during rush hour, killing 41 people. Authorities suspect a terrorist attack.
2003:
-Dec. 9: Female suicide bomber blows herself up outside Moscow's National Hotel, across from the Kremlin and Red Square, killing five bystanders.
- Dec. 5: Suicide bombing on commuter train in southern Russia kills 44 people. President Vladimir Putin condemns attack as bid to destabilize the country two days before parliamentary elections.
- Sept. 16: Two suicide bombers drive a truck laden with explosives into a government security services building near Chechnya, killing three people and injuring 25.
- Aug. 1: Suicide bomber rams truck filled with explosives into a military hospital near Chechnya, killing 50 people, including Russian troops wounded in Chechnya.
- July 10: Russian security agent dies in Moscow while trying to defuse a bomb a woman had tried to carry into a cafe on central Moscow's main street.
- July 5: Double suicide bombing at a Moscow rock concert kills the female attackers and 15 other people.
- June 5: Female suicide attacker detonates bomb near a bus carrying soldiers and civilians to a military airfield in Mozdok, a major staging point for Russian troops in Chechnya, killing at least 16 people.
- May 14: Woman blows up explosives strapped to her waist in crowd of thousands of Muslim pilgrims, killing at least 18 people in an apparent attempt on the life of Chechnya's Moscow-backed chief administrator, Akhmad Kadyrov, now the region's president.
- May 12: Suicide truck-bomb attack kills at least 60 at a government compound in northern Chechnya.
- April 3: Passenger bus hits remote-controlled land mine in the Chechen capital, killing at least 8.
2002:
- Dec. 27: Suicide truck-bomb attack destroys headquarters of Chechnya's Moscow-backed government, killing 72 people.