"Airline" show

[Typhoon1244]

...in all the jets I've flown I've never heard of a "pre-takeoff engine warmup/stabilization period." This must be unique to your CRJ 200.

I guess so: it's two minutes.

So you guys have no checklists either? Just light 'em up and go?

 

[wil]

RJones- Last year in AMA we were working our away around weather and getting vectors for a VOR to 13. SWA was shooting the ILS to RWY 4. Winds were 14023G28. Not sure if the nose gear was lost on touch down or the return to the runway. It looked like the engines were totally trashed. Why would your company continue to take such risks?
Last week into LBB the winds were 170 at 18. We flew the visual pattern for 17. And, guess who came on the radio asking for the staight in to 26? Right, SWA. Now, I know we are all big boys/girls and can land in a stiff crosswind but given the more appropriate choice would you want to sit across from the FAA if something went wrong? The taxi time has got to be close to the same.
I had thought about applying to SWA but , from what I have seen, I just don't think I would fit in to the SWA mentality.
I fly under one rule (well maybe several) and that is, if I had to sit across the table from the FAA and /or Company, can I justify my actions and decisions?
I am not trying to sound cocky but as a kid who grew up in SOCAL and flew SWA it has been disheartening to see your line operations first hand.

 

[captainv]

>maybe someone will come along and make a show about flying >that shows the fun, beautiful and exciting part of it.

it's a noble thought, but what would you show? you'd have no problem filling a special on day-in-the-life of an airline pilot, but then what? how would you fill 20 episodes?

it's a common complaint about the media, too much negative news. but when it comes to what people read, hard news wins out over features by a huge margin. and sadly, dear abby, the comics, and (in Florida) the obituaries get read more often than anything written by a reporter...

but if you 've got some good ideas, pitch it to A&E. with the success of Airline, maybe they'd listen.

 

[GogglesPisano]

The show's a rip-off of "Airport" on the BBC.

(Without the accents.)

 

[skydash]

Hey Wil- Compare our 30+ year safety record against the other major carriers.......hhmmm
Also, from the pilots at Southwest..Thank you for NOT applying.
LUV ya!!

 

[LearAv8r]

The show's a rip-off of "Airport" on the BBC.

Actually is is not from the show "Airport" From what I can remember it is being produced by the same people/company that produced a British version focusing on EasyJet, show in the UK. It got great ratings over there and from what I have heard it has good ratings over here too.....


go figure-

Lear-

 

[Typhoon1244]

Compare [Southwest's] 30+ year safety record against the other legacy carriers...

(1) He has a point, but...

(2) "Other" legacy carriers? Since when is Southwest a "legacy" carrier?

I wasn't aware Herb was flying the mail in the Twenties...

LUV ya!!

That reminds me: about Southwest's marketing department...

"We've been in Love for thirty years!"

That makes me want to barf every time I see it. Jesus, but that's corny!

 

[wil]

skydash- I bet your pax luved going off the runway in AMA. You did not refute what I wrote so I must assume your cavilier attitude towards safety is the norm. How tragic.

 

[TR4A]

skydash- I bet your pax luved going off the runway in AMA. You did not refute what I wrote so I must assume your cavilier attitude towards safety is the norm. How tragic.

Given the choice I would have used Rwy 4.

VOR 13 (7901' X 100')
ILS 4 (13502' X 300')

wil
If you can't handle a little crosswind by all means take the runway with little or no crosswind. If you plan on interviewing at SWA let us know so we can put in a good word for you.

 

[LJDRVR]

O.K.,

Before this degenerates into another finger-pointing post, let's look at things responsibly. For starters loose the hyperbole, of course SW has a checklist. If you've spent anytime jumpseating on them before 9-11, you'd have witnessed that it is one of the better pieces of paper (plastic) out there as far as covering the important stuff fast.

Conversely, pointing out how you've never had an accidents with fatalities is surely tempting things in a karmic sense. WN does have more than it's fair share of ground operation accidents, simply a byproduct of the pace at which things are done. (V1 minus 5 right? ) The big difference is the Dallas mafia keeps that stuff off the six o'clock news better than anybody. When a carrier like Vanguard blew a nosegear tire on the taxiway, there were live news helicopter feeds. WN runs one into the grass, and there's no coverage whatsoever. I'm not complaining, I thinks it's great! Herb must have some Sicilian in him along with the Irish.

We've all witnessed somebody doing something we considered a bit "out there", what we should do is avoid pointing the fingers at each other simply based on the reputation of a specific operator.
When mishaps do occur our response should not be: "Ahh figures it was _____...." but one of: "what can I learn?' and "there but for the grace of god..."

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Given the choice I would have used Rwy 4.

VOR 13 (7901' X 100')
ILS 4 (13502' X 300')

winds 140 @ 23 G 28. Are ya thinkin' you'd have a hard time stopping on an 8000 foot runway with 23 knots in your face? I would vote for 13. But what do I know?

 

[TR4A]

winds 140 @ 23 G 28. Are ya thinkin' you'd have a hard time stopping on an 8000 foot runway with 23 knots in your face? I would vote for 13.

No. I would opt for a 300' wide runway with ILS versus the one with a VOR and 100' wide.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

No. I would opt for a 300' wide runway with ILS versus the one with a VOR and 100' wide.

Ahhh, prior Air Force. Now I understand.

 

[wahoo250]

its all about money. you offer cheap flights, people will buy. The only thing different from swa and the other carriers are the peanuts and bottled water that you pay 1-3 hundred dollars extra for.

 

[sandman2122]

Rwy 13

I would land on rwy 13 -