Air Wisky Vs. Xjet

[aviatormar]

Ok, so I think I've narrowed down where and whom I’d like to work for. I'm originally from Boston, and want to stay here. I think these two companies are the best fit for me, I know there is Eagle, Big Sky, Commuteair, Colgan, and Cape Air, but I wanted to focus on these two for the time being. I can't seem to find anywhere that compares these two companies directly. I know back in the day Air Willy was the place to be. How has it now? How's upgrade times, how does management treats pilots? Does Air Wisconsin have trip swapping like Xjet does? I have a lot of friends who love Xjet, but I'm scared of what their future holds (CAL not renewing their contract at all, being totally left out to dry, having EWR shrink to nothing, that type of stuff). Thoughts and ideas is what I'm open too.


P.S. This original post was poorly thought-out and written like a two year old, still not great, but I apologize for the awful first post.

 

[skydork]

Ok, so I think I've narrowed down where and who I want to work for. I'm from Boston, and want to stay here. I think these too companys are the best for me, I know there is Eagle, Big Sky, Commuteair, Colgan, and Cape Air, but I wanted to focus on these two. I can't seem to find anywhere that compared these two airlines. I know back in the day Air Willy was the place to be. How has it now? How's upgrade times, how does managment treat ya'll? I have alot of friend who love Xjet, but I'm scared how thier future. Thoughts and ideas is what I'm open too.

Make sure you proof read your resume.

 

[WSurf]

And if you are scared about the future, then going into the airline business is not for you!

Everyone in this biz is scared of the future! You could be at the top Carrier on year, and the next your near the bottom.

 

[LJDRVR]

I hope none of these carriers require you to write an essay.

If you want a coherent response, you need to put a little more effort into your post.

P.S. Have somebody proofread your resume. Really.

 

[aviatormar]

Make sure you proof read your resume.

Your right, I wrote this early in the morning, no excuse.

 

[GOULET!]

Why do you want to commute to these places from Boston? Have numerous friends at Air Willy and they dont like it. XJet seems to be the better of the two but why not take Eagle and just be based in Boston? Your going to hate any regional you work for when your commuting to get there. Just a fact check. Good luck in your decision.

 

[WSurf]

Your going to hate any regional you work for when your commuting to get there. Just a fact check. Good luck in your decision.

Bingo! Listen to this man!

 

[aviatormar]

If you don't mind me asking, what don't your friends specifically dislike about Air Willy? I haven’t totally discounted Eagle from my choices, but the idea of a 7 to 10 year upgrade doesn’t sound too appealing.

 

[SkyNation]

I'm pretty sure the Eagle upgrade time is dropping well below that.

AWAC and XJT are both top tier regionals. Listen to what has been said about commuting-just don't do it.

If you want the PIC time faster, look at Commutair. I think they have a base in BOS.

 

[NEDude]

I just left AWAC.

The pilot group is great, the contract is great, the union guys work very hard for you.

Management has basically declared war on the pilots and contract. When I left the union was being swamped with grievances. Management was beignining to totally disregard the cotnract. Additionally there is that little bit about the contract arbitration (which the pilots won but are still having to deal with). The airplanes are filthy as well.

If you can deal with PHL, a downright hostile management group (they aren't even trying to disguise it any more) and disgustingly filthy airplanes, AWAC is pretty good.

 

[WSurf]

I just left AWAC.

The pilot group is great, the contract is great, the union guys work very hard for you.

Management has basically declared war on the pilots and contract. When I left the union was being swamped with grievances. Management was beignining to totally disregard the cotnract. Additionally there is that little bit about the contract arbitration (which the pilots won but are still having to deal with). The airplanes are filthy as well.

If you can deal with PHL, a downright hostile management group (they aren't even trying to disguise it any more) and disgustingly filthy airplanes, AWAC is pretty good.

Sure your not talking about Piedmont Airlines? The disgustingly filthy airplanes thing!

But we are painting them!

 

[zawillif]

Don't know much about either group. But I do know that Whiskey has a decent amount of BOS overnights. I don't believe Xjet has any. Bidding for BOS overnights would make your commute easier.

 

[Beechnut]

I just left AWAC.

The pilot group is great, the contract is great, the union guys work very hard for you.

Management has basically declared war on the pilots and contract. When I left the union was being swamped with grievances. Management was beignining to totally disregard the cotnract. Additionally there is that little bit about the contract arbitration (which the pilots won but are still having to deal with). The airplanes are filthy as well.

If you can deal with PHL, a downright hostile management group (they aren't even trying to disguise it any more) and disgustingly filthy airplanes, AWAC is pretty good.

What he said. Like, EXACTLY what he said.

I didn't know it could feel so good to be so gone.

S.

 

[n757st]

Commuting to PHL from BOS would be pretty cake, you will have about 20 flights a day. There are rumors of a LGA base in the future, where you would have about 45 flights a day. This place is not perfect, I would recommend maybe RP or so just because the upgrade is a bit quicker... that said the contract and pay for a FO especially will be better at AWAC. I don't know much about Xjet nor about their schedules... I suppose if you get EWR it would be not so bad, but you will hate that commute if you get a California base. The few people I know at Xjet are happy, so go with your gut.

 

[Pocono Pilot]

Your edited post isn't any better. You sound like you might be mildly retarded.

Please don't come to ExpressJet. LOL

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

What he said. Like, EXACTLY what he said.

I didn't know it could feel so good to be so gone.

S.

Double Ditto. Hows it going S.?

Batman

 

[bailey3083]

I would say neither. Working for 1300 bucks a month is not worth your time. Take a job in Boston! You will lose a day on each side of your trip commuting and when the delays start forget about it! Take Eagle you will be alot happier and get to keep 200-300 bucks a month in crashpad expense.

Bailey

 

[aviatormar]

Your edited post isn't any better. You sound like you might be mildly retarded.

Please don't come to ExpressJet. LOL

Yeah, I know it still sounds retarded (I wrote it at 3 in the morning after a fight with the girlfriend, so I was tired and pissed, and english isn't my first language), however, the fact remains, that your still a douchbag and you got turned down by CAL, don't be too bitter.

 

[aviatormar]

So if I was go get on with Eagle, right now is BOS a junior or senior base? How long is reserve looking like? What is upgrade looking like right now?

 

[AWACoff]

I left AWAC this year. Management had declared all out war back then and now that the real chief pilot has passed away..... He was the only thing AWAC had going for it in management. Here's to the best C.P. I have ever had.

The current chief pilot is a total scumbag. I hope he dies in a fire. Slowly. It feels ludicrous to say this but it feels right nowadays...stay away from Air Wisconsin. If you don't mind getting fired for speaking your mind on a private forum (even though you had an exemplary employment record with kudos from numerous captains), AWAC just might be the place for you. If you don't mind the company threatening to fire you if you don't fly sick, AWAC just might be for you. Anybody else have any others?