Air Wisconsin

[flyhard]

Just heard that AW is picking up several additional cities. Wondered if that would speed up any hiring with the news of this?

 

[cheezpilot]

Dont know if this means growth. We got some flying cut also. It seems that when we fly somewhere new we stop flying somewhere else. We are just hoping that United makes it. Things will not be good if United tanks.

 

[dogg]

Cheez, do you guys have any remnants of a reservation system left. Wondering if you all will go it alone when UAL stops paying the bills for good. Do your CASM's make you guys competitive in todays pricing. You guys must be down to hoping and holding your breath...............

 

[AWACoff]

According to our MEC update, we have no plan for "going it alone". It wasn't a very positive message. Don't count on anything speeding up hiring. We are quite overstaffed as it is right now. Hopefully things turn around soon.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

To kind of add to the last post. It was also said that AWAC was in talks with another carrier about code share opportunities. On the other side of the company (AirTran) it was also mentioned that they have placed an order for 100a/c and if that's the case there will be much more happening for the JetConnect operation.

WD.

 

[General Lee]

I just saw on the computer that Air Whisky will start flying BAE-146's from ORD--RDU---IAD. That is pretty interesting, eh? I have a question---will Air Whisky be hiring furloughed UAL pilots now with the new UAL agreement?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Wiskey Driver]

General, we got something that indicated that we were giving UAL furloughed pilots pref. interviews with no seniority resignation. I don't think that our pilot group will accept a j4j deal like that other place. I agree with j4j but only in seniority order. None of this 50% go to the left seat while the other 50% get top f/o pay only a $hit outfit like you know who would sign off on that crap.

WD.

 

[FL717]

To kind of add to the last post. It was also said that AWAC was in talks with another carrier about code share opportunities. On the other side of the company (AirTran) it was also mentioned that they have placed an order for 100a/c and if that's the case there will be much more happening for the JetConnect operation.

WD.

By "they" do you mean Air Wisconsin or Air Tran has placed an order for 100 aircraft? If you meant Air Wisconsin, then you would know better than me.

If you meant Air Tran has placed aircraft orders.. you have heard incorrectly. As of today we haven't placed any orders yet. We have announced that we will, and most likely will announce that soon. Regardless of that order.. be it 50 or 100 aircraft, the flying by Air Wisconsin will continue to increase, but there is a ASM cap and that cap isn't a speck compared to the void created in your system if UAL tanks.

It will take years.. for all our new aircraft to all arrive on property, and thus increase our system ASM to rise to a level that would dramatically increase your JetConnect flying, at large levels at least.

If UAL or another major keeps you all busy at your current staffing levels, then our additional flying that goes to Air Wisconsin would grow your company at a steady rate.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Not all information is correct information and that's why I said "I heard" Now, I do think that we are talking to other carriers in case we need to fall back on something but I really believe that UAL will survive. I think someone may have said that same thing about Pan Am!

Thanks for the Info.

WD.

 

[Tug Driver]

new air wiskey routes

today i heard that aw is doing one crj flt per day from ORD-ATL. any truth behind that???

 

[Wiskey Driver]

I haven't heard that but it dosen't mean that it's not true.

WD.

 

[rightrudder]

We have been providing ual express service ORD-ATL since June, as well as ATL-IAD. I don't know how many flights a day, but I know it was more than one in the not so distant past.

Also, as far as a "J4J" scenario, that applies only to acquiring 51-70 seat aircraft. If we want to acquire 70 seaters, we must provide employment opportunities to furloughed UAL pilots. None of the details of this have been ecked out yet, as the UAL agreement is only tentative at this time. What "provide employment opportunities for furloughed UAL pilots" means has not yet been defined.

To answer General Lee's question, our 146's are not subject to the limitation on operating 70 seat aircraft. They are "grandfathered" in. We can operate them and don't have to provide UAL pilots employment opportunities in the J4J's situation.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Interesting if AWAC starts the ORD - RDU - IAD run with Bae146's as Gen. Lee states. ACA currently does it with CRJ's. Will have to check our schedule and see if there are any changes that I didn't realize. Hhmmm....


Just checked:
ACA currently does that route 6 times per day in the RJ and no changes that I can see for the April schedule...

Wonder where that info came from Gen. Lee?


Oh, for those that wondered, AWAC does 5 round trips a day IAD - ATL (jumpseated many times) and 1 trip a day to ORD for UAL as UAX. They have been doing this for quite some time now...

Cheers.

 

[AWACoff]

Whiskey Driver,
I'm not sure where you got your information. The latest update on the MEC hotline dated March 23rd did NOT say we were in negotiations with another carrier. It further stated that the company does not have plans to go it alone. I haven't had a chance to look at the AWAC powerpoint presentation...per chance it was mentioned there? Our MEC chairman also said that if United were to file chapter 7, it would be a very bad thing for AWAC. There was no mention of additional aircraft either. Where are you getting this from?

 

[Wiskey Driver]

AWACOFF. All of this info came from our own web board and the new power point board. Now the info on the a/c deliveries is on our pilot message board and that came stright from MB in ATW.

WD.