Air Wisconsin TA passes

[DairyAir]

The vote just in

324 yes
160 no

88% participation

Thanks Mesa

 

[logolight]

Stay tuned. The ACA vote is coming soon.

 

[ClassG]

Some of us don't know the details. What's being agreed to here?

 

[j41driver]

Stay tuned. The ACA vote is coming soon.

What are we voting on? You have to remember that in order for there to be a vote, there first has to be a TA. Our Negotiating Committee and MEC have stated many times that they are pretty far from reaching an agreement with the company. They might never come up with a TA.

 

[CRJ_Driver]

First things first. I would like to know some details about the the Whiskey TA. A comparison between the old contract and the new one would be great.

ACA.Well, I like the disinformation campaign the MEC puts on nightly. What are the implications of the company wants to continue discussions PAST the 10th deadline?

I don't like it!

Regards.

 

[Iceman21]

To show my newbie status, what is the MEC?

Thanks

 

[TriDriver]

To show my newbie status, what is the MEC?

Thanks

Ice

MEC=Master Executive Council of the union.

The pilots of each base elect their LEC (Local Executive Council - usually you elect a captain rep, a first officer rep, and a secy/treas.)

If you have several bases, each has their own LEC, and all the LEC's together make up the MEC.

TriDriver Bob

 

[Jetsnake]

First things first,
this is not anywhere what MESA agreed
too.
Don't be fooled.

I voted "Yes" to this TA for several reasons.
I will not even get into why; except to say.

"Air Wisconsin pilots were afforded the
opportunity to vote; Yea or Nah!"

"The last contract in which ACA agreed to
was authourized by there MEC without
a general vote from the pilots."

"Skywest can't even vote, they have no
negotiating committee, there company put
in a bid, and if accepted, there pilots have
no recourse in which to negotiate. Regardless
of pay cut's...

This does not even guarantee future work
for Air Wisconsin in the future for UAL.

As a regional pilot group, does anybody think
we can change the minds of the "BEAN COUNTERS".
And the Bankruptcy court for UAL.

AWAC's Negotiating Committee has been historic for
(Pro Pilot) contract's in the past.

If they aren't on this one, then we can't say they
didn't attempt the best job they could. They did great.
And I support them 110%

Jetsnake

 

[Iceman21]

Thanks TriDriver Bob

 

[j41driver]

...ACA.Well, I like the disinformation campaign the MEC puts on nightly. What are the implications of the company wants to continue discussions PAST the 10th deadline?

A "disinformation campaign", huh? So much for unity I guess.

 

[CRJ_Driver]

I'm sure the MEC has their reasons and they have stated this on the hotlines...but how come their is no update on the hotline. Even just..a we are putting a response together now...stay informed.

Thats what I mean by disinformation campaign.

I like the full pay till the last day!

 

[JohnDoe]

First of all....I am neither defending nor slamming the Mesa Ta... I'm not going there.....

But.... to DairyAir

"Thanks Mesa"


Isn't it YOUR pilot group that passed the TA....??? You all had the choice to vote yes or to vote no.......

 

[DairyAir]

Okay I'll bite

I guess I should rephrase.

I do not fault the Mesa pilots for ratifying thier TA. I fault the pilots who were willing to go to work for freedom. By willing to work there for substandard wages and work rules they undermined the bargaining power of the Mesa pilots who really had no choice but to vote in thier TA to ward off Freedom. Now we at Air Willy are having to take concessions in order to secure the flying we curently have as well as additional flying. It is all a big s#it sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite. As I am sure Mesa can attest it does not taste very good.
Our new TA is what I and probably many of the other pilots here think is the lesser of to Evils. Our negotiating committee chairman flat out told us this a pig. We've cleaned it up put some lipstick on it and taught it how to dance so thats cool but it is still a pig. The good thing is that even with the concessions our contract is still one of the best out there. One other thing if United does not accept our bid the TA does not go into effect and we will get top pay to the last day the latter of which is would probably occur in the next 12 to 18 months.

My thanks go out to those who supported JO by going to Freedom
good luck
DairyAir