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11-13-2009

Pilots,

As mentioned in yesterday’s Fast Read, the Master Executive Council traveled to headquarters in Appleton this afternoon to receive a briefing from the company with regard to the UAL RFP. Present for the company were Jim Rankin, Bob Frisch, and Joel Kuplack. Representing ALPA were all LEC representatives, MEC officers, Bill Patterson, and Jane Schraft.

The company presented a brief summary outlining the history of the RFP to date, which they believe is in some form of its’ final stages. The MEC was advised that Air Wisconsin stands a good chance of obtaining this new business if several factors play out, one of which involves the pilots directly, which is what I will focus on tonight. In costing pilot liability (expense), Air Wisconsin felt they needed to significantly reduce pilot cost in order to remain a part of the RFP, let alone be competitive. In light of this estimation, they submitted what ultimately was a 16 percent reduction from current CBA figures. This 16 percent is for UAL (new) flying, which, when shared across the US Airways flying would be an estimated 5-6 percent global concession from the current contract. While the MEC did not know prior to today’s meeting what the briefing would entail, we certainly were not surprised by the request for give backs due to past experience, and were prepared to respond. With this as the back drop, the MEC unilaterally rejected the company’s request for concessions to obtaining new flying. There are many reasons for the MEC to respond in this fashion, and the following represent some key components they weighed prior to taking this position:

-This pilot group is currently working under an agreement that has suffered deep, unrealized concessions for UAL

-This pilot group is being squeezed daily for maximum productivity under the current agreement

-We believe our pilot costing models show that Air Wisconsin pilots are indeed cost comparable to other pilot groups with secured flying for UAL

-The UAL RFP is direct replacement flying for MESA Airlines, another APLA carrier. It is against ALPA policy, as resolved at the 2006 ALPA National Board of Directors meeting, to accept concessions in the name of growth or to take flying previously performed by another ALPA carrier.

The above are just some of the MEC’s concerns and a part of their reasoning process which led to this decision. It is a high priority of your ALPA representatives to help ensure that Air Wisconsin remains successful, profitable, and a long term employment option for our pilots. With that in mind, we certainly hold high hope that our owners and senior leadership find a way to secure additional flying, most certainly with United Airlines. It is, however, not acceptable to have this growth lay on the backs of our professional pilots.
We believe that the business model of “cheap, at all costs” is a business model that works very well in a bankruptcy era, but that era has long since past. Now is the time for quality to thrive, and Air Wisconsin built its reputation on quality. We are indeed concerned about the future of Air Wisconsin, beyond 2015, and we feel the best road to a prosperous future is by adhering to quality and having a solid, time proven business plan - a plan that does not participate in the recently popular “race to the bottom”.

Your ALPA representatives will continue to work with Air Wisconsin management to maintain and enhance the production of a safe, efficient and quality product. Although we are disappointed that our management has again placed the fate of our growth in the employee’s hands, rather than in headquarters where that responsibility belongs, we remain confident that in the end our company will find success in quality, not quantity.

Please feel free to contact any of your elected leaders to discuss this update further. We appreciate your involvement and most certainly will provide additional hotlines should there be any future developments.

In Unity, and to our future
 
Yes, they asked us for paycuts to "get" the UAL flying. Flying that they probably knew they wouldn't get. I think they asked us so they could turn around and say, "If only you had agreed to the paycuts, we would have got the flying" and hope that we would believe it.
 
Word to the wise...if you must give concessions in order to get something in exchange, include a firm rollback provision so that you can revoke the concessions if things don't turn out the way you expected.
 
-The UAL RFP is direct replacement flying for MESA Airlines, another APLA carrier. It is against ALPA policy, as resolved at the 2006 ALPA National Board of Directors meeting, to accept concessions in the name of growth or to take flying previously performed by another ALPA carrier.

Hmm...wasn't XJT awarded this flying? Aren't they APLA?






eP.
 
IMO, any reduction in flying for Mesa and/or SkyWest is a good thing. Mesa is run by a tyrant who refuses to bargain in good faith with his employees and the SkyWest pilots refuse to organize and fight for the collective good of the industry. Both of these companies cripple any efforts to raise the Regional bar.

Congrats to the XJet guys. I also gotta tip my hat to the Air Wisconsin MEC. Keep up the good work!
 
Xjet pilots have raised the bar but to what end? boat load of airplanes out doing nothing and company picking flying at a loss so that they can make things look on the up and up. Don't you think other managements are looking at that as well, what incentive is there? Everyone is trying to underbid each other. Can you imagine what would hapeen if there were 10 Expressjets instead of one? Eventually it would turn to what it is now. It's just impossible for everyone to have the cake and eat it too in this industry. It's a doomed business model in terms of qol for the labor. The last thing we should be doing is saying "any reduction in flying for mesa and skywest is a good thing". The unions also have done a very good job of pining pilots against each other as well. Whatever happened to unity!!
 

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