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[Hugh Jorgan]

I found it well worth my time and money and it directly resulted in an interview that led to a job offer...a good job offer. It certainly can't hurt to go. Would you not go out to a nightclub just because you heard all the babes were taken? One thing's for certain; Stay home and don't make an effort and you won't get jack.

 

[EternalOptimist]

Alaska Airlines does not give preferential hiring to furloughed pilots, in fact, it's quite the opposite. They want to be your first choice and they want to see that you made every effort to get hired by them. They attend Air, Inc. and they look very favorably on pilots who are willing to shell out the cash just to get a face-to-face meeting with one of the Chief Pilots. My husband went to the LAX Air, Inc. seminar in 2002 and met the LAX Regional Chief pilot at Alaska Airlines. A few months later he was called for an interview and is now in training at Alaska. He found out recently that Barry Rainey (sp?), the LAX Regional Cheif Pilot for Alaska Airlines, sent in a recommendation for him after meeting with him at Air, Inc. He didn't have an on-the-spot interview, but if you look at the pilot job listings at Alaskaair.com you will notice that they look very kindly on any conference attendees. I don't know about other airlines but if Alaska Airlines is your goal, go to the Air, Inc. seminars whenever possible and meet with the Alaska recruiters.

 

[B190Captain]

Get ready for the recovery of 2003. 6,000 new pilot jobs! At least that is what the AirInc ad said.

You have got to be kidding!!! They actually said that?!? Actually it could be true. Many vacancies at Iraqi Airways.

 

[FearlessFreep]

I attended the LAX job fair. It was similar to a FAPA job fair that I attended in the early ninties. There is some information that can be gleaned from the experience. If you do attend one be objective and understand that nothing may come of it. An acquaintance that I met there got an interview date with Comair; setup at the job fair, so yes there are some possibilities.

One thing that might surprise you all.
Kit started out the morning meeting with something that went like this "At this point in time the state of the industry su*ks"!

That has to be a first. He did suffix that statement by telling us that there were still companies hiring.

Good Luck To Us All!

 

[Publishers]

not exactly

Frankly, Alaska does not care whether you paid the money or not.

Airlines attend these for a number of reasons. First, it does not cost them anything to attend. They get to meet and talk with other recruiters, find our what is going on in other companies.

They have the advantage of being able to tell a bunch of applicants the story once rather than 80 times individually.

When they do need people, they can visit with them. Some of the regionals attended these to get and recruit people who came to see major carriers. Often there was as much action between the attenders and other attending airlines for job switches as there was for recruiting Kit's members.

Kit uses that allure to grab some serious money. AEPS frankly ran a much better airfair as far as the pilots were concerned. Cost less, ran longer with much more face time with recruiters. You could go meet Comair for $20 or $200 with Kit as example/

 

[trainerjet]

Re: not exactly

Frankly, Alaska does not care whether you paid the money or not.

While you may be technically correct in your statement that "Alaska does not care whether you paid the money or not", they do care a great deal that you put forth the effort to attend a conference. Sometimes, "paying the money", is the only way to attend. As a matter of fact, currently Alaska ONLY considers pilots for interview that either are Horizon pilots, have a referral ("silver bullet"), or attended a job fair.

This is directly from the Alaska website:

Pilots

We are not currently accepting new pilot applications. QX pilots, conference attendees and AS employee referrals with applications currently on file will be the only applicants considered for pilot employment.

 

[Publishers]

Again

Yes I am technically correct and for the most part correct on exactly what I said. They have enought Horizon, enought Silver bullets to find every pilot they will need.

Job Fairs make it easy on the recruiters, why would they not like them for the reasons I gave. It has absolutely nothing to do with your effort to get there.

Your telling someone who wrote the book on this stuff how it is. Thanks but I know exactly how it is.

 

[trainerjet]

Re: Again

Your telling someone who wrote the book on this stuff how it is. Thanks but I know exactly how it is.

Of course, you would like to believe that, and even more so, convince others to believe it. It helps to sell yourself, which is the business you are in. You would think however, that someone who "wrote the book" would know the difference in "your" and "you're", but I guess that is what editors are for.

There have been enough posts, here and elsewhere, from people who gained interviews at Alaska by attending Air Inc, WIA, and other conferences to refute your claim. But, since you are the "expert" who knows it all, I guess we will defer to you.

P.S. As an AS pilot, I think I have a fair handle on where our recruits are coming from. Then again, I didn't write the book, so what do I know?

 

[English]

Trainerjet, you said exactly what I was thinking!

 

[Publishers]

your reading what you want to

I never said it was not possible to get an interview at one of these job fairs. Read what I did say. IT IS EASY FOR RECRUITERS, that is why they attend and like them.

At AEPS and at WIA, they pay'd to be there. At Air Inc, they do not. I think it is a fair assessment that when the company pays, they are there because they want people. That said, there is a bit more than a little PC in attending WIA.

The original comment was that they liked people that paid there way in to these fairs as it showed interest. I am saying "not exactly". They liked them because they were easy for themselves. People do get some interviews out of them, no question about it. John Erskine from Comair hired most of his recruits at the major jobfairs.

I was merely trying to give you some insight as to how these things work for real.