Air FLeet in NJ & part 141

[Dominicinco]

I hear Air Fleet Training Systems in New Joisey is a pretty good school. Im also interested in it because they are a Part 141 training school so I may be able to get Financial Aid.. hopefully
Speaking of which, are you awarded grants or JUST loans when you attend a 141 school?

Does anyone know of any Part 141 school in LI? preferably close to Queens.
Anyone hear good things about Air East or L.I.F.T?

 

[turpentyine]

what does part 141 mean?

 

[Dominicinco]

Turp, the difference between part 142 and part 61....
Whether you train under Part 141 or Part 61, you'll learn the same things and take the same FAA tests. The only real difference will be the order in which you learn things. Part 141 schools must use a structured curriculum that teaches skills in a specific order. If you fly every day, this curriculum ensures the effective, efficient use of your training time. Part 61 schools are not bound to a structured curriculum (many Part 141 schools also train under Part 61); they can rearrange the order in which you learn things to suit your schedule, which benefits those who can only fly on weekends and evenings.

hope this helps! by the way i've narrowed my search down to Nassau FLyers, Select FLyers, Air East, and LIFT... still tough decisions ahead but i will prevail.

 

[turpentyine]

select flyers ? where is that?
my friend gave me a phone number of some private instructor that is suppoesedly good. her mother trained with him.
i gave him a call but he wasnt there so i am waiting for him to call me bak.
is that even a good idea to do it through a private guy?(i ve been told i can save a lot of money this way)

oh how are you paying for your training if you dont mind me asking?

 

[Dominicinco]

peter, personally i think its a grea idea to train with someone that was highly recommended to you even if he is a private pilot. I have been trying to do the same through this message board but no one has given me a suggestion yet. By the way, where is he located? And where do You live?
As for paying for flight school, if i go to a 141 i will try and get financial aid, otherwise i will take out a loan.

Dom

 

[turpentyine]

I live in queens. Where u live?
By the way he just called me. He charges 82 an hour for the plane and 40 for instruction. For ground school he uses videos.
He teaches on warriors.
The price is kinda steep, no?
Oh and he only takes cash.
He said he is doing this because he likes to cuz he already has another career as a police officer in the city i believe or something police related.
He teaches out of farmingdale, republic airport.

 

[Dominicinco]

peter, i live in Flushing, are you nearby me? maybe we can meet up one day and discuss our goals to keep each other motivated, cuz i kno i need a lot of it.
The price he's charging for Warriors is ok. i did a lil research and average is about 76-78 bucks.
You sure you want to train with a police officer, it might be like boot camp..lol, jk.
Hey if he's good, let me have his number too.

 

[turpentyine]

oh flushing where in flushing
flushing is big
i live in fresh meadows
ye we could meet up one day like in baruch or r u not taking this semester
i duno if he is good or not a friend just recommended him to me
i gotta do more research with other schools

 

[superrav]

Millon Air

If your flying at Teteboro, try Million Air Flight School..i've had a great time flying there...

 

[Dominicinco]

Yea, I've decided not to cross the river into Jersey but go the other direction to Republic Airport. I think i will be going to Nassau Flyers. Any thoughts?
And thanks all for your posts.
By the way, are there any 141 schools in NYC besides in TBT.

 

[rubberducky]

Hey Guys,
Just food for thought. I did my commercial and my CFI at AirFleet Training Systems. I also worked there(and many other flight schools). I can honestly say that they are the best flight school in the New York Area. Gene and Susan Bopp (owners) are two of the most honest people that I have ever met in aviation.

For example. I had been working on my CFI for three months, and I was finally ready. But the C172RG was not. They found some problems with it during the annual. A month later when it was fixed, I finally took my CFI checkride. I had to fly to Harrisburg to take the test. When I got back from the checkride, they didn't charge me for the rental of the aircraft for my inconvenience! I challenge anyone to find better customer service in aviation...

rubberducky

"splash and go"

 

[turpentyine]

where is this school located

 

[Dominicinco]

I looked it up, there are two in:

Air Fleet Training Systems
150 Fred Wehran Drive
Teterboro, NJ 07608 Phone


LINDEN (LDJ)
Address
Air Fleet Training Systems
Route 1 North
Linden, NJ 07036

 

[superrav]

Air Fleet "TEB"

Ask TEB controllers about what they think about Air Fleet at TEB...i would stay away..from my own experience and couple of people i know..
my 2 cents..good luck

 

[great cornholio]

Hey guys hows the school search goin? Well I didnt do any flight training up in the NYC area in fact I didnt do any flying there until I started going into LGA when I started flying for an US Airways Express carrier. But anyways there are some basics you should follow no matter where you are gonna do your training. First go in person and visit as many schools as you can. Dont let the cheapest rates make up your mind either. Look at the planes and the maintenace facility if you can. Some schools have mostly new planes and some have the older ones. How new the planes are doesnt matter all that much as long as the maintence program is good. Also try to talk to some of the different CFI's at each school and make sure you like the general atmosphere of the school you select. Each school will have its own unique atmosphere and you need to find the one that works best with your learning style. For example there could be 3 flight schools on the same field to make it easy lets say the rates are the same and they all have good maintence on the a/c. One school might be really professional even making the students dress up. The other school might be really laid back and just "fun and comfortable". And the 3rd school might be kind of a mix of the 2. You just need to find out which school you feel more comfortable in because you need to be comfortable with the surroundings to get the max learning out of each lesson. Well hope this helps guys. Good luck and keep at it.

 

[superrav]

Good advice...i second that..

 

[Dominicinco]

still looking

Hey everyone who post, thanks for advice.
Some updated news on my training, I recived my 3rd rate Medical Certificate today (woopty-doo) My green light to fly! Well, money is really green light to fly, lol.
So speaking of which, anyone know a low interest loan out there for this type of stuff. I hear you can get as low as 4% but thats just pushing it for a guy like me who has decent but not perfect credit. I hear Fannie May is offering 14% and ^ ...can you believe that!? What the hell does she spend the money on, dresses.
But anyway, I was going to visit a couple of schools in Republic Airport this week but the weather does not look good.. oh no no NOOoo, thunderstorms all week.
So hopefully the following week i'm going to visit Nassau Flyers, Air East, and a couple of other ones out there.
Can anyone tell me some vital questions i should ask about the maintainance of planes. Like whats appropriate.. "Do them things really fly with all that junk under the hood?"
And do I get insurance from the school or do I have to call up my State Farm Insurance Agent Bob for help on that?
all replies welcome.