Air Defense Capability - Iran

[lowtimedriver]

Without poking into classified info, is Iran's Air Defense capability formidable or would we go though there like $hit through a goose?

 

[Scrapdog]

Without poking into classified info, is Iran's Air Defense capability formidable or would we go though there like $hit through a goose?

Ask the Israelis.

 

[Captain X]

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison.asp

 

[Lynxman]

We can hot mop pretty much anyone.

 

[L'il J.Seinfeld]

A B-2 could fly over Moscow, London, Havana, and any other country and not a sole would be the wiser.

 

[tomgoodman]

A B-2 could fly over Moscow, London, Havana, and any other country and not a sole would be the wiser.

Yes, but what if the radar operator is a heel?

 

[instructordude]

Iran flies the F-14 Tomcat. With it radar it can shoot down just about anything outside of 100 NM. I'd would think they are a very serious threat to just about anything including the Falcon and Raptor.

 

[Draginass]

Iran flies the F-14 Tomcat. With it radar it can shoot down just about anything outside of 100 NM. I'd would think they are a very serious threat to just about anything including the Falcon and Raptor.

Stick to instructing 152s, Instructordude. You're WAY out of your league on military capability, qualitative analysis, weapons system capability, and tactics.

The answer is sh*t through a goose.

 

[JAFI]

Iran flies the F-14 Tomcat. With it radar it can shoot down just about anything outside of 100 NM. I'd would think they are a very serious threat to just about anything including the Falcon and Raptor.

Correction, Iran HAS some F-14's that are over 20 years without parts, trained support staff, up to date missiles, and Iranian pilots. (They have oil, money, and crazy which to me is the scarey part.) IMHO if they could ever get an F-14 airborne, it would just be another symbol painted on the outside of a US fighter cockpit at the end of the day.

I would also say "thru a Goose", but I think the Israeli’s have a prior claim to that party and no Socialist as Commander and Chief.

 

[Sonny Crockett]

Iran flies the F-14 Tomcat. With it radar it can shoot down just about anything outside of 100 NM. I'd would think they are a very serious threat to just about anything including the Falcon and Raptor.

Idiot.....


They have been "VFR" only for some time. No parts, and a very MX intensive A/C that have not really been maintained well since 1979.

 

[instructordude]

Idiot.....


They have been "VFR" only for some time. No parts, and a very MX intensive A/C that have not really been maintained well since 1979.

Whatever. I would not mess with the Tomcat regardless of who is flying it.

 

[JUNK YARD DOG]

I don't know what there capabilities are.. But in another life I did a lot of flying in that arena with a US flag carrier.. We would enter Iranian airspace in eastern Turkey and fly down the western boarder and exit in the gulf...
You have to call Tehran Air Defense radar for entry into the airspace 10 mins prior... So there you are, calling and calling no reply.. Right up to the boarder, finally in the blind on there freq, announce your holding intentions and a miracle would happen... Now they hear you and clear you in... In my opinion they were baiting us to see if we would enter w/out a clearance... Force us down and create an incident... Just my .02

 

[lowtimedriver]

Whatever. I would not mess with the Tomcat regardless of who is flying it.

You're dangerous.:nuts:

 

[SIG600]

Whatever. I would not mess with the Tomcat regardless of who is flying it.

Listen to Draginass... those in the know would be racing to be first to the merge in order to paint a Turkey on the side of their jet.

6.5 G's, AOA sensitive motors, and a green Iranian make a great combination for some good HUD footage.

 

[LearLove]

Whatever. I would not mess with the Tomcat regardless of who is flying it.

instructordude, tell us how much better the F-14 is than the Mig-28.

 

[414Flyer]

Iran flies the F-14 Tomcat. With it radar it can shoot down just about anything outside of 100 NM. I'd would think they are a very serious threat to just about anything including the Falcon and Raptor.

Now come on, its the FIGHTING FALCON, not just the non-fighting Falcon business jet. Our f-16 pilots deserve better than to be labeled Dassaultcorporate jet pilots, so never use the term Falcon or F-16 without the full Fighting Falcon name too.



Of course some of the equipment Iran likes to crow about having, may even be out on ranges out west.

 

[Fox-Tree]

instructordude, tell us how much better the F-14 is than the Mig-28.

Well, I think we all know that the -28 has problems with it's inverted flight tanks............. so we've got that going for us....... which is nice. :nuts:

 

[LearLove]

Well, I think we all know that the -28 has problems with it's inverted flight tanks............. so we've got that going for us....... which is nice. :nuts:

so could it or could it not, do a 4g negative dive? plus how hard is it to fly the mig-28 with that little joystick thing they have?

 

[AC560]

so could it or could it not, do a 4g negative dive?

It can and as soon as I can figure out how to post a Polaroid on the Internet I will prove it!

 

[Dizel8]

But that "reconfigured" F-5 they have is awesome!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saeqeh-fighter-plane-test-Tehran1_(4).jpg

 

[LearLove]

But that "reconfigured" F-5 they have is awesome!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saeqeh-fighter-plane-test-Tehran1_(4).jpg

Telephone: ring ring ring
Iran: "Hello, you have reached the Air Force of Iran"
Caller: "Yes it's the Blue Angles calling, we would like our paint job back"

 

[bssthound]

Yes, but what if the radar operator is a heel?

:laugh: HILARIOUS!!:laugh:

 

[Zulu]

Whatever. I would not mess with the Tomcat regardless of who is flying it.

Of course you wouldn't, but that's more a reflection on you than on the capabilities of an Iranian F-14.

Z

 

[C-150ETOPS]

Whatever. I would not mess with the Tomcat regardless of who is flying it.

Listen to instructordude, he knows the Tomcat and it's capabilities.

He's far to humble to brag that he spent some time driving that beast. Here is a pic from about 5 years ago taken as he was taxiing to the waist cat.

http://www.lctn.com/air-sho/graphics/fea8.jpg

 

[SIG600]

listen to instructordude, he knows the tomcat and it's capabilities.

He's far to humble to brag that he spent some time driving that beast. Here is a pic from about 5 years ago taken as he was taxiing to the waist cat.

http://www.lctn.com/air-sho/graphics/fea8.jpg

bwah hahahahahahaha!

 

[Draginass]

I can just imagine the stunned silence in the briefing room as some raghead political mullah briefs Iranian pilots that they are getting the chance to reek havoc death and destruction on the American Air Force. Mission planning will be easy. Plot direct course for Iraq with the gear down and land at on first piece of concrete. Sell airplane to first donkey cart junk wagon that comes along. Use money to buy a good time in Bagdad.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

I can just imagine the stunned silence in the briefing room as some raghead political mullah briefs Iranian pilots that they are getting the chance to reek havoc death and destruction on the American Air Force. Mission planning will be easy. Plot direct course for Iraq with the gear down and land at on first piece of concrete. Sell airplane to first donkey cart junk wagon that comes along. Use money to buy a good time in Bagdad.

Uh, wait a minute, wasn't that just describing Iraq in 1991?

 

[sstearns2]

Without poking into classified info, is Iran's Air Defense capability formidable or would we go though there like $hit through a goose?

I imagine we could handle their air defenses, but we could not handle it if they reacted to an attack by taking out oil tankers going through the Strait of Hormuz with the large number of surface to surface missles they have along that coast or worse yet if they targeted those missles to take out the Saudi oil infastructure.

The reality is that the Iranians could economically ruin us with a dozen missles targeted to take out oil production and transportation. Iran already controls quite a bit of the oil that comes out of Iraq. Imagine if they shut off that oil flow and all the shipping out of the Persian Gulf? We can shut off the lights in Tehran and they can send oil to $500 a barrel.

Cheers,
Scott

 

[2000Easyguy]

Telephone: ring ring ring
Iran: "Hello, you have reached the Air Force of Iran"
Caller: "Yes it's the Blue Angles calling, we would like our paint job back"

Haha, maybe they think if they have the paint scheme the rest will follow!

 

[chris69]

See:
http://www.csbaonline.org/4Publicat...irSea_Battle/R.20100219.Why_AirSea_Battle.pdf
Ch.3, p.27-36 or just p.32 for IAD.
Gets more challenging if Iran actually acquires the SA-20/S-300 from Russia.
See:
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Grumble-Gargoyle.html
For open source analyst take. Can't confirm or deny accuracy of above.