Age 65, Seniority Stagnation

[densoo]

Seems like if you're typical seniority at that age you could likely min hours. CAL is min of 74 hours with an assigned line, but it can be dropped to 55 hours depending on reserves. At 60, if you're looking at flying 8 days a month, most will probably say "why not?" Part time job, 100K/year or more at CA pay, 8 days a month.

 

[whymeworry?]

I've been at CO for 20 years, believe me, this list just came to a big stop... I think 4% is right, but my guess is 4% the other way. (not negative thinking, just realistic)

Next bid will have realign, no vacancy until the 787 maybe fall. (IMO)

Finally someone who gets it. Age 65 aside, this party started to end 60 days ago when the credit markets finally began toaccept just how fkd their bad investments truly are(after the sell-off that started during the summer). That domino effect, coupled with a meteoric rise in oil prices (50% this year alone), was enough to send the economists into predictions of a tailspin. The only thing CAL can do, in the face of all this bad news, is plan accordingly. So growth plans were shelved and that is just the start. The 2-3% growth is NOT in net airframes. It is in block hours and seat miles, i.e, they're reshuffling aircraft missions (73s and 757s to do even more int'l while domestic gets cut).

The age-65 issue is just the nail in the proverbial coffin for the next 5 years. We were fkd before this rule changed, now it's just going to hurt for longer.

 

[In The Wind]

Can the Pilots who were forced to retire at 60 be able to come back with there seniorty?

A

 

[pilotyip]

Can the Pilots who were forced to retire at 60 be able to come back with there seniorty?

A

No the bill is very clear on that, you can come back as a new hire.

 

[Spooky 2]

No the bill is very clear on that, you can come back as a new hire.

So what would happen if a Delta Capt who turned 60 on November 12th decided that yea, he still wanted to fly even if it was in the right seat of an MD88 on reserve in JFK? Again assuming he has a very good work record for the past thirty plus years, would Delta be in any way obligated to hire him as oposed to facing a age discrimination suit? Interesting concept with a host of variables. Don't say it's not possible as stranger things have happened. I know one early out Capt. at Delta that went to work for SKW simply so he could fly with his son who was already a Capt. there, and there are a number of early out Delta guys flying for some of the cargo and supplemental carriers. Don't agree with the concept, but it's real.

 

[pilotyip]

legal and HR

So what would happen if a Delta Capt who turned 60 on November 12th decided that yea, he still wanted to fly even if it was in the right seat of an MD88 on reserve in JFK? Again assuming he has a very good work record for the past thirty plus years, would Delta be in any way obligated to hire him as oposed to facing a age discrimination suit? Interesting concept with a host of variables. Don't say it's not possible as stranger things have happened. I know one early out Capt. at Delta that went to work for SKW simply so he could fly with his son who was already a Capt. there, and there are a number of early out Delta guys flying for some of the cargo and supplemental carriers. Don't agree with the concept, but it's real.

HR and legal will have to work that out