Age 65 is Law the greedy.....

[Poahi]

I have to admit - I'm astounded the regional pilots don't appreciate how much money they lost yesterday. That's where my frustration with ALPA comes from. When the minority controls the majority and the majority loses a few hundred thousand over a single issue, I have to wonder why the pilots have given up as much as ALPA has. I'm pro ALPA, but this is over the top.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Point taken.

I still prefer it to working 9-5. I'll give you that the uncertainty does add a certain "je ne sais quoi" to the whole career...

Absolutely. I tried 9-5 out of college and it didn't agree with me. I like the changes from day to night, different cities, weekends sometimes etc. when it comes to month-to-month flying. The monotony of an office style job would drive me nuts.

 

[Hamburger]

And it is an issue as polarizing (if not as widespread) as the abortion debate and the red/blue debate.
Shout on.

Politicians change their opinions all the time. It's called Pandering. Those who shout loudest get pandered to.

 

[ifly4u]

So with 65 the law of the land now I think the current hiring boom has legs for another 6 months then things are going to slow way down. It will give the airlines a chance to catch up on staffing before mins start going up, bonuses go away, etc. The so called "pilot shortage" is entering it's last days but for now the music is still playing so my friends make hay while the sun shines. Get in somewhere good cause there's no telling how long you might be stuck.

 

[Hamburger]

I can't wait to see how Kit Darby spins this ********************e sandwich.

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

For shame indeed:

To all those people who feel screwed over, too bad. The only benefit you have for their retiring at 60 is to move up and make more money yourself; when given the chance to do the same they are greedy, regardless of the context of their hiring 20-30 years ago. At that time, they probably were still relying on their 'guaranteed pensions'--guess what? Times change, so move one or wait: when you're 59 1/2 put your papers in and let the guy junior to you move up one (oh, and don't forget to look for insurance and additional income until you can tap SS or other assets). You need not work until that age....but my guess is you will, even though you signed on expecting to retire at 60. Guess AMR will be hiring a bunch soon since APA doesn't believe in 65...

 

[Hamburger]

when given the chance to do the same they are greedy

They were given the chance to screw their fellow pilots out of the opportunities they enjoyed during their careers. Hardly the same thing. Tool. Enjoy your RJ and that type rating you bought. Maybe you'll get to use it some day.

 

[norskman2]

They were given the chance to screw their fellow pilots out of the opportunities they enjoyed during their careers. Hardly the same thing. Tool. Enjoy your RJ and that type rating you bought. Maybe you'll get to use it some day.

Ham,

Don't be such a tool yourself. If you want to argue scope and how ALPA at the majors sold regional pilots down the river, fine. But that's a different fight.

SKYWRJGUY, you're right on the money. If all these whiners were 59 1/2 right now they'd all do the exact same thing. When they turn 59.9, let's see them turn in their resignation to make room for younger pilots, seeing as how they've all got such big hearts.

 

[siucavflight]

Waaa, Waaaaaaaaaa, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Hamburger]

As a matter of fact, I will. I have no desire to work until I'm 65 and it's now going to cost me the equivalent of everything I currently own (house, cars, furniture,tools, etc..) to do so.

Someday when you're out of your 152 and actually flying something for a career, you might understand how big of a kick in the teeth you just took.

 

[Hamburger]

Waaa, Waaaaaaaaaa, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I am a regional pilot aspiring to be a mainline pilot.

You should be crying, see you in six years..

 

[TSA/TWA/AA/TSA]

New contracts will reflected age sixty-five, the only difference will be 5 more years of work. The total career earnings won't change a bit. Sad day. Can I do anything about it. NO. Just a new reality.

 

[PilotGeek]

You didn't consider yourself grown up until you were 30?!

yes, but it was a different time, before the age of entitlement.

 

[Hamburger]

You mean the age when pilots reaped the benefits of those that retired before them but now feel entitled to take those same benefits from those after them?

No, you're probably referring to those who feel entitled to nothing more than the same opportunity the generation before them got instead of that generation stealing it from them.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Age at
Retirement-- Average Age At Death
49.9 ------- 86
51.2 ------- 85.3
52.5 ------- 84.6
53.8 ------- 83.9
55.1 --------83.2
56.4 ------- 82.5
57.2 ------- 81.4
58.3 ------- 80
59.2 ------- 78.5
60.1 ------- 76.8
61. -------- 74.5
62.1 --------71.8
63.1 ------- 69.3
64.1 ------- 67.9
65.2 ------- 66.8

Atleast I feel better about not having any sort of retirement. I'll be long dead before I run out of what little money I'll have saved up.