ACA furloughs

[walkthasky]

and...

Lets not forget that Mesa pissed off UAL as well, and we all know whats going on with them now. You never know. If something else is available I'd grab it. Hell, im even looking at ATC

 

[Flex 20]

I wasn't there but...

...I sincerely doubt Tom Moore said a word about UAL being pissed at ACA for the motion on the contract affirmation. It's business and ACA did not try to force UAL into paying affirmed rates, we simply wanted to know. Air Wisc filed the exact same motion to be heard sometime soon. That leaves SkyWest as the only major CRJ carrier that is still in UAL's good graces. Shoot, I better get them a resume.

It's true that without contract concessions (both with UAL and our pilot group) ACA will have a hard time growing under any banner. However, I believe our pilot group will agree to concessions (we need to compete with the bottom dwellers unfortunately) and UAL's recovery plan, when unveiled, will include more RJ routes. I expect ACA to get it's share of those.

Maybe it's rationalization since I'm getting furloughed next week, but I tend to think the company will grow again within 1-2 years (or so). ACA, like all other CRJ operators, has to grow or it will die. An aging fleet, and aging pilot group, etc. all cost more and more money.

If UAL pulls through in any form, ACA, Air Wisc, and SkyWest will all benefit IMHO.

 

[copilot421]

i was told either by the "road show" or my mgr. that ual owes aca about 6 million dollars. are those figures still accurate??

i believe that the national atc site today projected that it will be hiring about 1,000 controllers per year over the next 3 years. good money, government job. if you already have a 4 year degree then i believe you can attend beaver co comm college for 3 semesters that will bring you up to speed be be a controller.

 

[acaTerry]

Any of you who go to ATC.....go to JFK so SOMEONE knows how to seperate us prop trash from the 747's!!!!!
"Blue Ridge 627, 210 to the marker. Traffic is a heavy 747 3, no 4 miles at the marker, he's slowing down. Contact the tower, see ya byebye"

 

[climbhappy]

to the courageous pilots of gulf warII

to C141FE an any others serving our country....

THANKS FOR YOUR SACRIFICE
TO PROTECT OUR WAY OF LIFE
MAY YOUR SEPARATION FROM FAMILY BE SHORT

AND THE QUICKER YA'LL KICK THE ASS OF HUSSEIN AND
HIS ROGUE OF THIEVES ALL THE WAY TO HELL

THEN THE QUICKER OUR INDUSTRY WILL GET BACK TO DAYS OF THE MID TO LATE90'S

AND WE CAN SIT BACK RELAX AND ENJOY THE FLIGHT

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!

 

[CRJ puppy]

My sincere apologies...

Tom Moore used the words "pissed off" regarding the Chautauqua/Delta deal to piss off USAir. The word he used regarding ACA and UAL was "antagonize".

Guess you caught me and called me on the carpet Ziggy!

RPTrain knows the score...

Cheers.

 

[C-5 MEM]

LOOKING4TRAFFIC and CLIMBHAPPY

Thank you for your comments. I have just got back from being out for two days. We were up towards Basara and things were getting a little heated up. We had a missle attack about 2 hours ago. We have to carry our chemical mask where ever we go and everytime the siren goes off we must put it on. Talk about your bold face items.
I have a feeling this thing is going to be longer than what we expected. I am hoping to be finished by Nov 30 but who knows.
We are luckey to come back to a so called crashpad here in Kuwait for our flight crews and able to watch TV. We have seen those protesters and that does not bother anyone over here.


Everyone in the pools waiting for a job. Just hang in there. I know its easier said than done, but remember this.

Great things come to those who wait.


Terry V.
CRJ/FO
ACA

Temp loan to the Air Force

 

[jimbo]

For the guys in the pool....beware....I was in the pool for ACA prior to 9/11. After ACA stopped hiring in Oct of 2001 they file 13'ed the pool list. I thought they would call me as I was in the next supposed class. They never did! Don't sit and wait cause if things go the the way they look, don't plan on them keeping the pool. BTW I called Dean after they started classes again and he had no record of me even interviewing. Thats what they think of poolies after going through a period of uncertainty.

 

[CatYaaak]

So how far back, in terms of DOH, will these initial furloughs go?

 

[CRJ puppy]

Sept. 30, 2002

 

[House_X]

jimbo,

I was in the pool prior to 9/11 as well. After my interview they never sent me any infomation confirming the results...I had to call...as a matter of fact, I called ACA every 1-2 weeks and bugged the heck of em' for 4-5 months till I had a class date.
So the rule is...sqweeky wheel gets the greese. I'm sorry you had an unfortunate outcome with the pool.

To the poolies...keep hanging in there...keep the wheel sqweekin'...hopefully there will be plenty of flying for everybody...if not...save me a uniform at Burger King!!!

 

[FR8dognit]

hmmm

Wow....furloughed from COEX and now shut out of a regional before I even get there....maybe flying fr8 isn't so bad after all. no furloughs, ok salary, and good flying. The schedule sucks but I do get to live in the greatest city anywhere DALLAS. Beats the heck out of Chicago, Washington, Boston, or anywhere in OHIO. Its 83 degrees here today! It was 80 degrees last week 3 out of 5 days. Good luck everyone and don't discount becoming a fr8 dog. Most of the horor stories are true but its all in what you make of it. Hey, at least I can pay my freakin' bills which is more than I can say about my formor regional airline salary.

 

[g159av8tor]

Also, don't be impressed with Moore and the upper management paycuts. Remember, the board can simply vote to return the paycut and bonuses ast anytime--just like Leo and the crew just did at Delta. This is not a sign of solidarity, just slick management tactics. Let's not get tricked by this BS.

Additionally, like a previous post iterated, Moore is liking us to Mesa, **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**taqua, et al because we pilots consider us on par with AWAC, Comair and SkyWest. Their hopes is that we'll meet in the middle with less than we have now. What a crock of shi-ite

Tailwinds...

 

[g159av8tor]

Also, don't be impressed with Moore and the upper management paycuts. Remember, the board can simply vote to return the paycut and bonuses ast anytime--just like Leo and the crew just did at Delta. This is not a sign of solidarity, just slick management tactics. Let's not get tricked by this BS.

Additionally, like a previous post iterated, Moore is liking us to Mesa, Chitaqua, et al because we pilots consider us on par with AWAC, Comair and SkyWest. Their hopes is that we'll meet in the middle with less than we have now. What a crock of shi-ite

Tailwinds...:beer: