ABX Japan Proffer Closing

[LarryinTN]

Junior Man is a function of seniority, not number of days off where after 13 remaining the next senior person is assigned.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but junior manning *IS* a function of number of days off as well as seniority. Per Article 13.L.2 & 3 a senior pilot with more than 13 days off is junior manned before a more junior pilot who is at, or below 13 days off.

 

[Sporto]

BTW, those of us who are on top of the list aren't here by just dumb luck. Back in the mid eighties everybody was hiring, and dozens and dozens of our friends left ABF for the legacy carriers. It was a big decision not to go with them. We've got college degrees and had jet PIC time, believe me, we were hirable. But I put my whole career at risk to stay here because I saw the potential. I could've easily taken the conventional career path, and I'd be long gone. I risked it all to stay here. Not simply dumb luck, after all.

Now we're enjoying the fruits of battles long ago won, and risks long ago taken, and setting ourselves up for retirement (high five). You want to change things? then change them, but don't splinter the group in the process. Ford & Harrison just loves to see your anger at your fellow pilots.

Your sense of entitlement wants to make me puke.uke:
We have all made sacrifices and judement calls whether to be here or not and yes, luck is involved good or bad take your pick.

If anyone splinters the group it's attitudes such as your's that accomplishes just that.

 

[HeavyjetDC8]

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but junior manning *IS* a function of number of days off as well as seniority. Per Article 13.L.2 & 3 a senior pilot with more than 13 days off is junior manned before a more junior pilot who is at, or below 13 days off.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll dig it out. To date this hasn't been an issue with past staffing problems not coming close to todays shortage of crew. Taking everyone down to 13 days has been unheard of, especially considering that bottom 50/75 apparently no longer counts.