ABX Hiring!?!

[erichartmann]

Is the language on the DHL contract for outside work a problem also? With the recent court stuff with DHL etc it seems like ABX is really close to the maximum on outside of DHL flying. -batfish

I guess that would depend on how the ACMI is set up. If work were added to the ACMI then it would increase the total amount of outside work ABX could do. Also, does ABX Air hold the ACMI, or was it transferred to ABX Holding, Inc. In the latter case, then you would have to know if the work done by CHI, as a subsidiary of ABX Holding, counted toward the 10% outside work allowed under the ACMI. I haven't seen the ACMI, so don't have the answers. At a guess, the ACMI didn't contemplate the recent purchase of CHI and formation of ABX Holding.

Can you say "ongoing dispute"?

 

[hyflyin]

1st year pay

For KIX, OUCH!! What do they give you for housing and medical, a box and a first aid kit? Talk about dragging down the bar to work internationally. Guess you could get the type, a few hundred hrs and move on to someone interested in paying you though.

Thanks for the info.

 

[bjbears]

So is this 1st year pay in Japan for real?? Is there anything in stone for Japan or is it up in the air still??

 

[filejw]

Well when I taxied out from KIX this PM there where two nice looking ships white a big Abx on the side(with small ANA cargo markings too).

 

[LarryinTN]

The only thing "set in stone" is what's in our current contract. The company has made some promises for housing pay ($3000/mo), education pay for the kids ($12,000), coach tickets to the US every six months, etc. but they also promised 2nd year pay for new-hires in KIX and that disappeared just as any of these other promises could.

 

[hyflyin]

The only thing "set in stone" is what's in our current contract. The company has made some promises for housing pay ($3000/mo), education pay for the kids ($12,000), coach tickets to the US every six months, etc. but they also promised 2nd year pay for new-hires in KIX and that disappeared just as any of these other promises could.

Well that helps a bit. Thanks for the additional info.

 

[filejw]

At min you should be paid what the contract company's pay in Japan otherwise you will be living in rather poorly I suspect.

 

[abxaviator]

Then you might want to seek employment from the Contract Companies, because ABX won't care what they pay. Right now, even those who bid the Captain slots can't actually move themselves (much less their families) to Japan as the Company has yet to figure out how to get Visas for them.

As far as anything "set in stone", in a manner of speaking it is, unfortunately it's a stone sunk at the bottom of the Laurentian Trench.

 

[filejw]

Don't need a job thanks just wanted to remind folks that although the Japanese people love Disney, Japan is not Disneyland. In fact a contract crew I talked to in NRT recently told me their company as having trouble getting visas and many of the new contracts required you to commute.

 

[xspud]

My impression is that it has been standard practice for contract crews to work on visitor visas. Several crewmembers that I have talked to said that obtaining a resident alien visa was not an option under their contract.

I know that ABX is working on visas for KIX. Whether there will be difficulties remains to be seen.

 

[ABXbooger]

As far as the visa issue, I have heard that people are not allowed to rent an apartment or turn on utilitys etc, unless they have a working visa, which as of yet the company has not figured out...

 

[filejw]

I think what they will find is most foreign contract crew members start their trips outside of JP. ANC HNL or Australia or the contract to the pilot pays for the commutes. As I read some of this stuff I find it a bit funny management didn't have this stuff figured out before they got the contract. Still like I said nice looking A/C on the ramp in KIX yesterday.

 

[LarryinTN]

As far as the visa issue, I have heard that people are not allowed to rent an apartment or turn on utilitys etc, unless they have a working visa, which as of yet the company has not figured out...

Would seem as though the company would have to provide accommodations to the crews until they are able to setup their own residence. Would be interesting to hear more about that!

 

[erichartmann]

Would seem as though the company would have to provide accommodations to the crews until they are able to setup their own residence. Would be interesting to hear more about that!

He He He He snarf gasp (ROLFLMAO) Oh my. (wiping the tears of laughter away)

Well, since the judge ruled the contract argueably allows the company to open a KIX domicle perhaps we should now grieve (or go back to court and sue on)the inability of a crewmember to actually live (reside) in Japan legally.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Some facts to add to your discussion:

I don't think that ABX will be able to sponsor any crew member for a residence Visa in Japan. Could it be done with ANA's help? Sure because everything in Japan is based on Influence, contacts and economical might but I find it hard to believe that ANA will get involved in using their influence and name to solve an internal problem between ABX and their employees. Their attitude will be more like "do what you must to comply with our agreement or we will agree with someone else"

To rent an apartment, get a phone line, obtain a drivers license and everything else that involves day to day living in Japan you need a resident alien card. Now having said that, Gambling is illegal in Japan but there are Pachinco parlors everywhere, right? My point is that there are ways. There are real state agents that will find and rent apartments under their names and rent them to you (for a fee of course)

Some of the contract pilots that work for the ANA group do not reside in Japan,(the 767's) some do like the Q-400's and the 737's (they are sponsored for residence in Japan for the duration of their contracts) for the 767's.They only sponsor you for a resident alien card while you are on training and your card will be taken from you after your training is over. Why? Tax liability, The only way that the company is able to get away with not paying retirement funding, taxes and all other social benefits that an employer must contribute to in Japan is if you are an outside contractor and do not hold legal residence in Japan.
Contractors do not come in and out of the country with a Visitor visa, but rather come in and out with a Shore Pass. (even on your commute)