ABX Furlough Notices Sent Out Today

[SIR MILO]

I think in a few years 65 will be a moot point, but for many peoples careers now it has forced them to reevaluate (those on the top, bottom and middle). Those who have been in the industry 30+ years have seen the cycles again and again and so you would think they would have planned for this one also(even though everyone of them catches you off guard because it happens so fast).
But like those picking up overtime while people are on furlough, this runs along the same lines.
I don't think 65 is bad (nice for people to have the option of 5 more years) it just got implemented at a time when the industry didn't really need it and it's negatively affecting others.
My point wasn't anybody is entitled to anything, but that sometimes you need to balance your checkbook a little. Doing that simple act could go farther then you probably realize.
Unless of course your a politician on your days off, then just spend away and take from others later in taxes, the public starts to catch on, just fire the auditor.

 

[SIR MILO]

If you're one of our people being furloughed, then good riddance!

Your only staying past 60 because your wife doesn't want you at home.

 

[PreRVSM]

Irony of the age 60 rule change

I don't think 65 is bad (nice for people to have the option of 5 more years) it just got implemented at a time when the industry didn't really need it and it's negatively affecting others.
My point wasn't anybody is entitled to anything, but that sometimes you need to balance your checkbook a little. Doing that simple act could go farther then you probably realize.

Wasn’t this pushed through due to a pilot shortage?

I really get sick of hearing about a pilot or mechanic shortage as I have been hearing this for 30 plus years.

Also, the early retirements will come… when the pay is cut in half.

 

[dsee8driver]

Except for the fact that he got his captain seat when someone else retired at 60, I would agree.

And you will get yours when someone turns 65... and someone will get theirs when you turn 65 or whaever it is then...

 

[nitefr8dog]

Wrong. I got my seat while the company was expanding. I also got it "out of seniority" because I bid for upgrade at every opportunity while others decided they would rather stay in the right seat, live in a termination point, and get the schedule they wanted.

Someone still had to retire at 60.

 

[nitefr8dog]

And you will get yours when someone turns 65... and someone will get theirs when you turn 65 or whaever it is then...

I got mine at 39 when someone retited at 60.

 

[nitefr8dog]

And you will get yours when someone turns 65... and someone will get theirs when you turn 65 or whaever it is then...

And how do you know anyone will get a seat when someone retires at 65? The guys who missed it now may never get one as our airline is going T.U.

 

[727Niteflyer]

And how do you know anyone will get a seat when someone retires at 65? The guys who missed it now may never get one as our airline is going T.U.

welcome to aviation

 

[FastHap]

welcome to aviation

No, welcome to corporate shenanigans by DHL/DPWN. This debacle has very little if anything to do with aviation.

 

[nitefr8dog]

welcome to aviation

Welcome to aviation? This is my third carrier in 20 years!

 

[TWA]

Welcome to aviation? This is my third carrier in 20 years!

That seems about right. The average American changes jobs every 6 years, and will go through 3 careers in their life time (I think).

 

[shooter]

That seems about right. The average American changes jobs every 6 years, and will go through 3 careers in their life time (I think).

Did they happen to drop a hint as to what my next career will be?

 

[TWA]

Did they happen to drop a hint as to what my next career will be?

Walmart greeter or Blackjack dealer. Either way, you won't have to leave beautiful Wilmington!:beer:

 

[Princedietrich]

That casino will never happen. Seriously, this is Ohio we're talking about, the voters wouldn't dare allow it. Gambling is a SIN! IT'S A SIN I TELL YOU!

 

[TWA]

That casino will never happen. Seriously, this is Ohio we're talking about, the voters wouldn't dare allow it. Gambling is a SIN! IT'S A SIN I TELL YOU!

The Quakers that inhabit the immediate vicinity around the proposed casino site might think it's a sin, but the other 87 counties in Ohio beg to differ! I'm getting my poker game ready and will buy the first round when it opens!

 

[Princedietrich]

A REAL casino brings you drinks for free if you're gambling.

 

[TWA]

A REAL casino brings you drinks for free if you're gambling.

Exactly! :beer:

 

[erichartmann]

Someone still had to retire at 60.

The company was growing (expanding). Nobody was retiring, as nobody stayed there long enough to retire back then. Most of us younger pilots looked at the job as a stepping stone to somewhere else. The older guys (at most in their early 50's) were just marking time till the place folded up and they had to move on to the next job.

 

[bukakke]

Most of the nifty fifty couldn't get a job anywhere else. Remember, these guys first have to pass an interview something they never did when working for Air Midwest Charter, and second there is the small issue of them passing a psyche test not to mention a physical.

 

[nitefr8dog]

The company was growing (expanding). Nobody was retiring, as nobody stayed there long enough to retire back then. Most of us younger pilots looked at the job as a stepping stone to somewhere else. The older guys (at most in their early 50's) were just marking time till the place folded up and they had to move on to the next job.

What is your idea of younger? I was 30 when I was hired in 93 I up graded 4.5 years later in 98 with no plans to leave ever.

 

[ABXbooger]

This casino, if it goes through, is going to have the angriest dealers in the world.

I keep thinking it's gonna be like the casino in Vegas Vacation with Chevy Chase, the one were him and his Cousin Eddy dig up Eddies money and go to. Games like War and other kid stuff...

 

[CL600Pilot]

... but the other 87 counties in Ohio beg to differ!

Are you referring to the 87 counties that voted in the smoking ban???? They have taken away strippers and smoking and are working on the pay day lenders -- I am a huge supporter of the casino but what has happened in Ohio in the past few years that gives you any idication that there will be a casino in Wilmington (or anywhere else in the state)???

God I'm glad I live close enough to Kentucky to spend my money there.

 

[TWA]

The difference between this and the smoking ban is everyone in the state was effected. With the casino, the other 87 counties won't care because it isn't in their backyard. The last I heard, over 60% of Ohio voters are in favor of the casino.

Did the stripper ban actually go through? I thought it got sidelined.

 

[CL600Pilot]

Did the stripper ban actually go through? I thought it got sidelined.

Actually I don't know.... I thought it did go thru but then it was challenged in court - not sure what the status is of it today. There was an activist group fighting against it called the "Dancers for Democracy" - I thought that was kind of humorous as they called themselves "The Double D's"