ABX buys Pace

[hvydriver]

LJ,

We can keep flying the current schedule.

 

[erichartmann]

LJ,

We can keep flying the current schedule.

It has been my understanding that Astar has no spare airframes. Is this so? If so, how does Astar propose to service the DC-8 station(s) now "uncovered" by the loss of the airframe to be returned to lessor?

On another note, I heard one of your A-300's did a high speed abort last Tuesday at ILN, but had not heard why. Any idea what happened?

 

[LarryinTN]

looks like ABX added a director to the board that is experienced with mergers and acquisitions.

Should be an interesting week...

 

[erichartmann]

Should be an interesting week...

In many ways!

Glad I'm not on reserve.

 

[hvydriver]

It has been my understanding that Astar has no spare airframes. Is this so? If so, how does Astar propose to service the DC-8 station(s) now "uncovered" by the loss of the airframe to be returned to lessor?

You understand wrong.

On another note, I heard one of your A-300's did a high speed abort last Tuesday at ILN, but had not heard why. Any idea what happened?

Yes I do, but since it's an ongoing investigation, it's not appropriate to comment on it yet.

 

[erichartmann]

Yes I do, but since it's an ongoing investigation, it's not appropriate to comment on it yet.

That suggests it was not cut and dried; i.e. an obvious failure such as loss of an engine, fire warning etc.

 

[hvydriver]

That suggests it was not cut and dried; i.e. an obvious failure such as loss of an engine, fire warning etc.

No, the abort was cut and dried. There was, shall we say, a somewhat less than stellar response from folks on the ground, and leave it at that, ok?

 

[erwaz]

The real question is who is going to do the flying from the loss of 21 ABX aircraft and 1 Astar DC8 at the end of August!

 

[B737Dvr]

The real question is who is going to do the flying from the loss of 21 ABX aircraft and 1 Astar DC8 at the end of August!

I thought that the loss of the 21 aircraft was replaced by the 767's that ABX got, meaning that the 8's were replaced by some 767's, or do I have it wrong?
Anyone know how many of the DAL 12 767's have been converted or have started? If ABX wants to do some pax flying, then how many 767's do they have available for that?

 

[LarryinTN]

The real question is who is going to do the flying from the loss of 21 ABX aircraft and 1 Astar DC8 at the end of August!

The ABX aircraft that are being removed from the DHL system were not flying any DHL routes. They were all spares. DHL in releasing those aircraft is reducing the number of spares that they are carrying and freeing them up for us to use on non-DHL work.

Two of the DC8s are already scheduled to take over a couple of charters from the MIA 767 domicile which frees them up for a new SJO/LAX/MEX/GDL/GUD trip. Not sure if that trip is for DHL or if it's a non-DHL charter.

The DC9 has actually picked up a couple of cities since July.

 

[goastar]

Noticed the 72s are picking up HRL, and DAL layovers, and adding OKC,and LBB as through stops in Oct. Thats an increase of 2 layovers for the 72. ATL now terminates in GSO, and PHL now terminates in ROC. I would guess ABX is doing ATL and PHL. Don't know what our 8's or airbuses are adding or subtracting. Don't forget who we all work for, this is just where the darts landed today.

 

[abxaviator]

No, the abort was cut and dried. There was, shall we say, a somewhat less than stellar response from folks on the ground, and leave it at that, ok?

I believe the initial query was simply waht may have happened with regard to the aircraft; I also heard there were injuries to the crew during egress, I hope they are well and will recover quickly.

 

[Jurassic Jet]

Noticed the 72s are picking up HRL

When are you guys starting HRL? It shows on our Sept bid packs all month.

Are you sure you wouldn't rather have LRD than HRL???

 

[goastar]

Looks like Oct 3, and I think we would rather have neither. I think it would be alright to cut TX in half and give that back to the mexican americans.

When are you guys starting HRL? It shows on our Sept bid packs all month.

Are you sure you wouldn't rather have LRD than HRL???

 

[Clipperskip]

HRL and LRD

Looks like Oct 3, and I think we would rather have neither. I think it would be alright to cut TX in half and give that back to the mexican americans.

I do not know how your HRL and LRD lines will be built in October but they were fairly popular for the DC-9 guys at ABX. Both flights had 36 hour layovers and even though the destinations may not be the greatest the long layovers made them easy on the body. The two trips with 36 hour layovers were also responsible for creating approximately 8 lines. That is quite a bit of flying. We will miss them dearly but we have learned the hard way not get too attached to any trip because of DHL's ever-changing flight operations plan.