AAI Article on Cutbacks

[MRYFLYER]

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/transportation/10308044.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA


Interesting article. AAI's market share is only 3% of the domestic market and has had the industry's worst performing stock. According to Jamie Baker the AAI stock has declined 40% year to date.

 

[Bosley]

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/transportation/10308044.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA


Interesting article. AAI's market share is only 3% of the domestic market and has had the industry's worst performing stock. According to Jamie Baker the AAI stock has declined 40% year to date.

So 32, how goes life at UAL? Are your captains still complaining about your (lack of) air(lady)ship!? Sucks to be on that "career f/o" list doesn't it!?

 

[BN2A]

Jamie Baker = Stock pumping/dumping A-Hole

He can say whatever he wants, then his firm can play the stock accordingly...

 

[mnboyev]

Good time to buy some AAI stock.. Buy Buy Buy.. !!!

 

[Ty Webb]

Reducing deliveries . . well, yeah, from 19 to 18 for 2007

Pretty simple . . . we're in contract negotiations. We are looking for substantial improvements, and the company is making money. They announced a $36 million profit last quarter, and the pilots smell blood in the water . . . . So, they need to lower our expectations . . . . . they did the same thing previous to the 2001 Contract, and we have doubled in size since then.

Word I got is that our 737 deliveries for next year have been reduced . . . . . . reduced from 19 to 18, so they can claim a "reduction" . . . we're not buying what they're selling.

Still hiring another 100 pilots in 2006 and 250+ for 2007. Here's to our next contract.
:beer:

 

[MRYFLYER]

Jamie Baker = Stock pumping/dumping A-Hole

He can say whatever he wants, then his firm can play the stock accordingly...

Are you saying the stock has not declined 40% year to date?

 

[MRYFLYER]

they did the same thing previous to the 2001 Contract, and we have doubled in size since then.

Word I got is that our 737 deliveries for next year have been reduced . . . . . . reduced from 19 to 18, so they can claim a "reduction"

You doubled in size but still only garner a 3% domestic share? Hardly earth shattering numbers. Also, were you on the property in '01?

Also, do you have source for your "word". Otherwise it appears there is fewer and fewer places for AAI to offer service. Also, what implications does DL stopping interline pass agreements have on the AAI workforce? According to DL there were very few DL employees utilizing the benefit but many more AAI employees riding DL.

 

[Ty Webb]

Are you saying the stock has not declined 40% year to date?

No, what we're saying is that the stock price isn't indicative of the health of the company, or the number of airframes that will be delivered in 2007.

We're making money, and have every year since 9/11/2001. Oil prices are going down and revenues are going up. Most of the people I know consider the current price to be a buying opportunity.

Personally, I think the stock price is low because the institutional investors are disgusted by the amount of money the execs are stuffing in their pockets and that the pilot group is getting p.o.'d about the lack of progress in negotiations . . . . .

But what is amusing in all of this is that you are so fixated on AirTran that you actually paid $10. to be able to come back here again and get your @ss handed to you on an hourly basis. You must have really missed it, Sweetcheeks.


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[400ADude]

No, what we're saying is that the stock price isn't indicative of the health of the company, or the number of airframes that will be delivered in 2007

Yes it is.

We're making money, and have every year since 9/11/2001. Oil prices are going down and revenues are going up. Most of the people I know consider the current price to be a buying opportunity.

Who are these people?

Personally, I think the stock price is low because the institutional investors are disgusted by the amount of money the execs are stuffing in their pockets and that the pilot group is getting p.o.'d about the lack of progress in negotiations . . . . .

Nobody cares.

 

[Ty Webb]

. Also, were you on the property in '01?

Yup.

Also, do you have source for your "word". Otherwise it appears there is fewer and fewer places for AAI to offer service.

5 new cities for next year, Sweet Cheeks. And my source has a direct need to know the delivery schedule. We'll just leave it at that.

Also, what implications does DL stopping interline pass agreements have on the AAI workforce?

I wasn't aware of that, at all. I've never heard anyone mention it, so, the answer must be "not very much".

According to DL there were very few DL employees utilizing the benefit but many more AAI employees riding DL.

Who knows/ who cares?

My, you're really grasping today, Sweetcheeks . . . . . must be "the curse".

 

[400ADude]

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Also, what implications does DL stopping interline pass agreements have on the AAI workforce? According to DL there were very few DL employees utilizing the benefit but many more AAI employees riding DL.

Probably didn't want to venture down to the C concourse. Ever been down there? They have problems with crime down there. Several stabbings and rapes happen there weekly.

 

[SkiFishFly]

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Probably didn't want to venture down to the C concourse. Ever been down there? They have problems with crime down there. Several stabbings and rapes happen there weekly.

You sir are a classless jerk.

Why such a hateful obsession with our company? I suspect you are filled with jealous rage - you are stuck and cannot figure a way out of your personal he!!. Man it must suck to be you.

Life is good at AirTran. Anyone who works there knows it. Yeah it could be (and will be) better.
Who couldn't say the same about the company that they currently work for?

 

[MRYFLYER]

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My, you're really grasping today, Sweetcheeks . . . . . must be "the curse".

Curse? What am I getting assigned to work at AAI?

 

[crosscut]

Also, what implications does DL stopping interline pass agreements have on the AAI workforce? According to DL there were very few DL employees utilizing the benefit but many more AAI employees riding DL.

Huh? What do the DAL/AAI employees "utilizing the pass agreement" have to do with it? What I think that interline ticketing cancellation means is if Delta cancels a flight & Airtran is the only carrier to Atlanta, Delta will NOW pay full walk-up fare to put their stranded [revenue] pax on the Airtran flight. The same would apply the other way around. A tad different, don't ya think or are you confused?

The interline non-rev travel, however, is completely different & is largely in place and will remain so but thanks for noticing.

 

[IAHERJ]

Hey AirTran neysayers; get a clue. Airtran has a good management team that knows what they are doing. They have a history of not going out on a limb and biting off more than they can chew. They grow conservatively. I think they will be around for the long haul in some some form or fashion. They would be a great acquisition target at the least but a job there is a safe one in my opinion. Why all the bashing??

IAHERJ

 

[EMBATP]

dude

Hey AirTran neysayers; get a clue. Airtran has a good management team that knows what they are doing. They have a history of not going out on a limb and biting off more than they can chew. They grow conservatively. I think they will be around for the long haul in some some form or fashion. They would be a great acquisition target at the least but a job there is a safe one in my opinion. Why all the bashing??

IAHERJ

go fly your 767 international or something

t.s.

 

[MRYFLYER]

The interline non-rev travel, however, is completely different & is largely in place and will remain so but thanks for noticing.

From the Delta Employee website it says:

With this cancellation, our reduced rate employee travel agreement with AirTran will end on October 8. Delta and AirTran may consider reinstating a separate agreement for employee travel in the future, but there are no immediate plans to do so.

I do agree with you that those agreements are separate, interline and the accomodation of ticketed revenue passengers. Delta has just said they will no longer give Non-rev deals to AAI employees in addition to the non-accomodation of distressed passengers.

 

[ATLDRVR]

If you consider ID90s a non-rev deal. That is all we have will Delta and most of the time an ID90 is not a good deal.

 

[crosscut]

From the Delta Employee website it says:

With this cancellation, our reduced rate employee travel agreement with AirTran will end on October 8. Delta and AirTran may consider reinstating a separate agreement for employee travel in the future, but there are no immediate plans to do so.

I do agree with you that those agreements are separate, interline and the accomodation of ticketed revenue passengers. Delta has just said they will no longer give Non-rev deals to AAI employees in addition to the non-accomodation of distressed passengers.

I know the interline e-ticketing has been terminated effective October 8 but I didn't know the non-rev travel was also ending. Oh well... considering our pass bureau's 2-week turn-around period, I wonder how many at Airtran actually used DL's ID90... as if it was set up to be user-unfriendly in the first place! Anyways, I have, however, seen a handful of Delta flight attendants (because they were uniformed) buying a $25 walk-up pass before. If this is true, too bad for the employees at both places but, regardless, it was never one-sided in Delta's favor, although it might have been presented in your internal memo as such. P.S. BTW, who wrote the memo, Vicky Escara (sp?)? Just kidding.

 

[mnboyev]

Easy come ... Easy go... We still take the FA's if we can. Hey, everybody just wants to go home or get to work. Right.

If I'm gonna travel nowadays.. I just purchase a ticket online like everyone else... I'm sure most do the same.

Why post this anyway.. Another in your face post to rile up the masses ?