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American says it will build Love Field hub if Wright limits lifted



[size=-1]11:08 PM CST on Friday, February 18, 2005 [/size]

[size=-1]By ERIC TORBENSON and VIKAS BAJAJ / The Dallas Morning News [/size]

American Airlines says it stands ready to build a full-fledged hub at Dallas Love Field, shifting much of its operation from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, if flight restrictions are lifted from the city airport.

Such a move would harm the fragile finances of D/FW as well as American, airline officials said Friday, not to mention adding a lot of noise and traffic to the area around Love Field.

But Gerard Arpey, American's chairman and chief executive, said the world's largest carrier would have little choice but to split its North Texas operations to remain competitive in this market.

"Were the Wright amendment to be repealed, we would have to build an operation at Love Field because that's where the customers are going to want to go," he told the Dallas Morning News editorial board.

The remarks represent American's strongest public stance on how it would defend its North Texas business in the face of Southwest Airlines' effort to open Love Field to long-haul service.

American's three gates at Love Field aren't currently in use.

To create a hub schedule with connecting banks of flights, American would need many more gates to build a hub "as extensive as necessary to be competitive" with Southwest, Mr. Arpey said.

But splitting American's North Texas operations would hurt local travelers, he said, because D/FW would be a vastly less efficient hub if it had to compete against Love Field for passengers.

Mr. Arpey said he views Love Field's master plan, which limits expansion at the airport, as "invalid" without the Wright amendment in place.

Southwest and city officials said they disagreed with American's position.

"Mr. Arpey is incorrect that the master plan would be null and void if the Wright amendment is lifted," said Dallas Mayor Laura Miller.



Early protection


Congress passed the Wright amendment 25 years ago to protect a then-fledgling D/FW from competition from Love Field. It limits commercial flights with more than 56 seats from Love Field to the states bordering Texas. A later amendment added Kansas, Mississippi and Alabama.

In November, Southwest dropped its long-held neutrality on the law, setting in motion a wrenching regional debate about air service. The carrier now says the law is anti-competitive and inflates airfares in North Texas.

Southwest is actively lobbying Congress for changes to or repeal of the flight restrictions, while D/FW has made a major push to keep the rules in place.

For the most part, American has kept a low profile on the growing debate, letting D/FW officials do most of the public speaking. But the airline continues to lobby to keep the law intact.

The chances for changing the Wright law remain far from clear.

Some Tennessee lawmakers have pressed for repeal of the restrictions, hoping they'll get cheaper fares if Southwest offers service between Dallas and their state.

So far, the North Texas congressional delegation appears divided on the issue. Three of the region's eight House members, all from the Dallas side, say it's time to loosen or scrap the law.

A key member of the delegation, House energy and commerce Chairman Joe Barton, R-Ennis, who represents part of Fort Worth, supports keeping the Wright amendment in place.



Threat not new


An unrestricted Love Field would quickly explode with passengers, forcing American to divert planes and resources from D/FW, its largest hub, Mr. Arpey said.

It wasn't the first time that an American executive threatened to shift significant operations to Love Field from D/FW.

Faced with the prospect of Legend Airlines flying American's best customers from Love Field in the late 1990s, American's chairman at the time, Robert L. Crandall, said he would aggressively enter the city airport.

Mr. Arpey declined to say how many flights American would shift to Love Field. He said American's response would depend on what the competition did, including how other airlines serving D/FW might move operations to an unrestricted Love Field.

Much of American's argument is based on where its best North Texas customers live.

At the meeting, American officials presented a map showing their greatest concentration of frequent fliers living closer to Love Field than to D/FW.

"I think Southwest has a chart just like this, and if I had a downtown monopoly hub airport in a city like Dallas, I would try to get it just like they are," Mr. Arpey said. "If I had the option of a shorter drive time to an airport, I would take it."



A forever thing?


American officials say they signed off on the Love Field master plan with the assumption that the Wright amendment would stay in place forever.

Dallas owns the airport, and its master plan limits the number of gates to 32 and curbs total flights.

Ms. Miller said she would like to lower the maximum number of gates available to 24 to minimize the impact of any airline expansion at Love Field.

Southwest insists the master plan won't change if the Wright amendment is repealed.

"The master plan followed the prescribed process, it had [American's] input," said Bob Montgomery, vice president of properties for Southwest.

Since the Federal Aviation Administration approved the master plan, he said he doubted American would be able to change it.

"I have a thing on my wall that has American Airlines' signature on it," Mr. Montgomery said.



Dueling hubs


American's argument against changing the Wright amendment leans on what it believes would be the detrimental effects of dueling hub airports in North Texas.

For many of American's flights to make money, they require lots of connecting passengers at D/FW, where nearly two-thirds of its 53.2 million passengers changed planes last year.

The carrier will fly 819 daily flights from D/FW by this summer and is adding several international flights in concert with the opening of a new international-only terminal.

Had the airline known in 1998 that the Wright amendment might be altered, Mr. Arpey said, it would not have participated in the $2.7 billion capital improvement project that has created Terminal D and the SkyLink passenger shuttle system at D/FW.

D/FW officials said the Wright amendment has to stay to protect the multibillion-dollar investment in new facilities.

"When you begin to splinter a hub and divest it between two airports, you inevitably lead to the unwinding of everything that has led to this economic engine," said Kevin Cox, the airport's chief operating officer.

American's plans to expand aggressively at Love Field are no surprise to D/FW, where the airline pays three-quarters of the operating expenses.

"It's precisely what we would expect from them, unfortunately," Mr. Cox said.

Mr. Arpey said his carrier will continue to "educate" officials on their stance and dispel what he sees as "a lot of confusion" about Southwest's position.

"No injustice has been done to Southwest Airlines," he said. "In fact, I think [one] could argue just the opposite, that back in the 1970s they were given an advantage in their ability to stay at Love Field when everyone else was forced to go to D/FW."

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Good strategy on AA's part in my view but it won't lessen the desire of SWA to move forward with abolishing the WA. Arpey implies such a move is in defense of DFW operations but that in doing so it will hurt his efficiency. Some would argue then why do it? Cutting off one's nose to spite one's own face just leaves lots of scars IMHO, holding your ownself hostage & hoping someone will save you from yourself isn't a good strategy but Mr Arpey appears to want someone to save them from themselves.

Those same might argue use the strength of his hub at DFW to generate more customer loyalty through price, service, routing and if they do this then they can keep the pax they want & generate more. Can AA squeeze more efficiency to compete with an airport less than 1/4 it's own size? Folks will say this is an admission they can not. Economy to scale should mean something & efficiency should mean something but apparently decreasing one's efficiency makes more sense (diluting the product & splitting operations) than improving one's efficiency. AA is no paper-tiger and they have reasons for doing what they are doing, I applaud their courage to take on the fight. I wish them nothing but good luck and hope the traveling public sees a long-term benefit through open & free competition...something that doesn't occur at the present time. Southwest has never wanted anything but an even playing field(s), DFW & Love. Southwest decided not to play on DFW's field, AA now appears to want to play on Love's Field...so be it...let the games begin I say:) !

I believe the trap was set & AA has stepped into it....be careful what one asks for, one may get it Mr Arpey....Southwest will welcome the competition and hopes the passengers of N Texas will see the benefit from it....the WA needs to be abolished, period, dot!!!!

To the folks who are looking for employment, I believe the sooner government gets out of the business of regulating air travel (even if it results in lower wages) the more folks will be able to return doing what they love to do, fly airplanes...I wish you all the best & a quick return to the cockpit of your choice!!!
 
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Now that this saga has been going on for months, does anybody know when congress will meet on the issue and make a decision?
 
The fight is in its early phases. Several congressional bills are winding through the halls that are designed to lift the restrictions for specific communities, Nashville being one. Currently Tampa airport authorities are asking their congressional delegates to investiage copying the TN approach to lift the restriction for TPA airport. This "piece-meal" approach, while slow, may prove to be more effective in the long run. It may take several bills from various congressional delegations to get the attention of other states which will in turn be pressured by local airports that SWA flies into to say "see what TN & FL are doing...why don't our congressional delegation get the same restriction lifted for our non-stops to DAL?" All of these congressional office holders have their own favorite bills that need support from other congressman at the time of voting for them...horse-trading as they call it...."you support my WA bill, I'll support your's plus some other pet project bill"....Civics 101...but this takes time....


There are websites up that have the history of the WA on it and are tracking the current path of these legislative efforts. In speaking with a friend recently who has close contacts with internal reps on the DFW Airport Authority, the public clamoring against the WA is countered by an undertone away from the public eye the abolishment of the WA is inevitable....they know the emperor has no clothes but won't say it publicly...the public persona is they must continue to fight the battle...they have no other strategy than to keep it in place. One would think that with all the bright minds there & at AA they would sit down & come up with an innovative way to make DFW competitive with Love despite the challenges....if nothing else hire the folks at GE who keep stuffing money in airline pockets to keep them going!!!
 
This is nothing more than posturing on AMRs part to sway the decision. They don't have the money to pay DFW and put up a whole new infrastructure at Love Field.
 
I have to hand it to AA. They're "woe is us" victim spin is interesting. Let's see, SWA has a 97% monopoly at LUV with a whopping 14 or so gates. AA has close to a 75% majority at the world's 3rd largest airport (don't quote me on the actual numbers). The reality is that, anyone would be crazy to show up and compete with AA at fortress DFW. DFW claiming that SWA was given ample opportunity to come and compete at DFW is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This little threat is purely a scare tactic, "DFW will die because we will split ops." Love Field is capped at 32 gates. How much of their operation can they realistically split and afford? A while back, AA underbid SWA to win the transportation contract for the state of Texas. The contract stated that they had to provide 10 daily flights between Love and Austin. They rarely provided 3 flights, because they simply cancelled most of the scheduled ones. Many flights were delayed because MX or a flight crew had to be bussed over from DFW. They lost the contract the next year due to massive complaints. This whole scenario is the pot calling the kettle black. If any air carrier has the monopoly here it's AA at DFW. They are doing a great job of creating a "Sky is falling" argument.
 
chase said:
The fight is in its early phases. Several congressional bills are winding through the halls that are designed to lift the restrictions for specific communities, Nashville being one. Currently Tampa airport authorities are asking their congressional delegates to investiage copying the TN approach to lift the restriction for TPA airport. This "piece-meal" approach, while slow, may prove to be more effective in the long run. It may take several bills from various congressional delegations to get the attention of other states which will in turn be pressured by local airports that SWA flies into to say "see what TN & FL are doing...why don't our congressional delegation get the same restriction lifted for our non-stops to DAL?" All of these congressional office holders have their own favorite bills that need support from other congressman at the time of voting for them...horse-trading as they call it...."you support my WA bill, I'll support your's plus some other pet project bill"....Civics 101...but this takes time....


There are websites up that have the history of the WA on it and are tracking the current path of these legislative efforts. In speaking with a friend recently who has close contacts with internal reps on the DFW Airport Authority, the public clamoring against the WA is countered by an undertone away from the public eye the abolishment of the WA is inevitable....they know the emperor has no clothes but won't say it publicly...the public persona is they must continue to fight the battle...they have no other strategy than to keep it in place. One would think that with all the bright minds there & at AA they would sit down & come up with an innovative way to make DFW competitive with Love despite the challenges....if nothing else hire the folks at GE who keep stuffing money in airline pockets to keep them going!!!

Can't seem to find anything on these bills, can you post the bill numbers?
 
American came into LUV field a while back using MD-80's to go to AUS with like 8 flights a day wanting to compete head to head with us. There loads were anemic to say the least. If they come back to LUV field they will get spanked again!
 
Moving to Love field will not solve AA's woes with SWA. There has been an increase in 'grass roots' petitions and lobbying in the Dallas-Fort Worth area to get rid of the WA. This, so people will have 'more of a choice' as it is being said. Love is only a few short miles from DFW. It's not the locale, its the service. Not my words, it's from the customers and potential customers.
 
Real tough decision process in many cases. Let's see,
Choice A: 73 service from LUV with friendlies
Choice B: High risk of 2 hr imprisonment on a whistling $hitcan from DFW at the mercy of a graduate of the Wicked Witch Flight Attendant Academy.

But hey, like the commercial says, "We Know Why You Fly (Southwest)".
 
AA did great with the 56 seat F100s from DAL to LGA and LAX........Right after Legend stopped flying, AA pulled that service.



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
AA did great with the 56 seat F100s from DAL to LGA and LAX........

My understanding was that they never did that great.

AMR started coming into MDW when ATA started sched. service to DFW. Then AMR started doing MDW-LGA for the same reason. F100's origionally then MD-80's and now LGA is on Eagle. AMR's philosophy is not to make money, but to keep the other guy from making all the money. Perverted form of market share if you ask me.

AMR, once again, is playing the political game. Note the recent marketing of DFW-BNA? If you follow them much, you recognize it's the SOS, same ole' sh!t. AMR is almost as bad as NWA when it comes to this tactic. These guys don't want anyone to make money but themselves.

AMR isn't going anywhere, neither is DFW. However, I can see the DFW Airport Authority pulling some political stunt in Austin or DC to get more power. That's how they were able to build the "far east" runways. They didn't have "eminent domain" at the time, they lobbied someone in Austin to get it. Done. Those opposed to the expansion, that built homes around the existing 1960's master plan were SOL. Some were bought out, some weren't. They couldn't get the "far west" runway built because federal law governing EPA studies and their effects on historical landmarks trumps state law. Many areas in downtown Grapevine are designated historical landmarks.

This whole thing will get uglier before it's resolved.
 
Hate to say I agree with Lowcur, but he's right. There is simply no way AA could negotiate the economic or airspace/runway hurdles that would be involved with them going into DAL. They are simply rattling their sabre in an attempt to sway public opinion and shore up political support. (Which is exactly what they should be doing.) I've got a feeling it's all in vain though, I imagine the WA will go the way of the CAB.
 
Halin,


I was being sarcastic. Had they done well, they probably would have kept it. I forgot the MDW part, though.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Hate to say I agree with Lowcur, but he's right.

Don't EVER say that again!!!!!!
 
Someone should tell Arpey that SWA isn't the same as Legend. Still gonna blame TWA when SWA kicks your a$$ Arpey? :rolleyes: TC
 
Man I welcome AA to LOVE..............The F-100 service rocked! If I dont have to drive to DFW anymore GREAT. AA come to DAL please !
 
Clipped from the Ft Worth Star Telegram from 18 Feb:

"Tennessee business leaders have asked their state's congressional delegation to seek a repeal of the amendment, citing high fares to Dallas/Fort Worth Airport. Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., who introduced a bill to change the Wright Amendment last year, was believed to be a point person for introducing a new bill.


Executives with American Airlines, the dominant carrier at D/FW, have also met with Tennessee lawmakers. The Fort Worth-based carrier recently reduced fares between D/FW and Nashville and added service between Nashville and Reagan National Airport in Washington.



The fare cuts prompted some North Texas lawmakers to predict that the Tennessee delegation might back off from plans to seek changes to the Wright Amendment. A spokesman for Blackburn said this week that no decision has been made.



On Thursday, Ricks called the Nashville fare cuts "the miracle of competition."



"If the potential threat to the Wright Amendment saved millions for the people of Tennessee, just ask what the actual repeal would do for the country," he said."
 

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