AA recalls

[macdu]

I heard from a flowback buddy of mine yesterday that it had taken 52 phone calls to get the first 10 to accept recall. Anybody able to confirm that? Do you think that will be the norm if it is true?

 

[TV9Driver]

Yep. But most of those called where furlough in stead (voluntary) people who probably have better things going on. Once they get through those people, then it will be the flowbacks - which if i'm not mistaken, have to take the recall. I think I read somewhere that they expect about an 1:8 ratio when it's all said and done.

 

[macdu]

Ahhh, makes sense. Thanks.

 

[HA25]

A good friend of mine at AA told me that it was a 1 in 6.. (1 coming in out of 6)..

With 1000 retiring in the next 3 years, and hopefully some expansion of the schedule.. I'll be getting my call to go to class inside a year! (optimism)

 

[pkober]

Does a furlough in stead get only one shot at recall? If they turn down there recall once are they done?

 

[magrs]

"With 1000 retiring in the next 3 years, and hopefully some expansion of the schedule.. I'll be getting my call to go to class inside a year! (optimism)"

When were you furloughed?

 

[HA25]

"With 1000 retiring in the next 3 years, and hopefully some expansion of the schedule.. I'll be getting my call to go to class inside a year! (optimism)"

When were you furloughed?

check your PM.

 

[TWA Dude]

Does a furlough in stead get only one shot at recall?

The FIS are like regular furloughees. They can choose to defer until they tell AA they want to come back.

 

[tubelcane]

Well I'm not going back if they ever do call me. I would qualify as having better things going on.

 

[HA25]

Well I'm not going back if they ever do call me. I would qualify as having better things going on.

so which is it, SWA, Fedex or UPS?

 

[tubelcane]

None of the above, The Tranny is where I sit now. Beats being furloughed any day of the week.

 

[HA25]

None of the above, The Tranny is where I sit now. Beats being furloughed any day of the week.

so you feel better about their future than AMR? (I ask seriously).

 

[tubelcane]

Its about game time so Ill keep this short. I don't know what to think about this industry. If I was at SW, Fedex, or UPS I'd be thrilled, Im not. I do have 250 guys below after a year with 300 + more coming next year. I made more money last year as a first year fo for Airtran than Ive ever made flying. I have a line and atleast 15 days off a month. I will have the opportunity to upgrade in the next 3 years. If I went back to American, I would be at the bottom, on reserve, and not upgrade for what maybe 10 years? A roommate from college was hired there a few months before I got on with TWA. He hated it from day 1. He was very disappointed the way he was treated by other crewmembers when they found out his background wasn't what they determined appropriate. Now he is at Eagle and is has been contemplating getting out of flying all together. I think, but don't quote me, American has furloughed every decade they've been in business. Airtran may not be around in a few years but I don't get treated like dirt by fellow pilots, and we fly good equipment. The contract is a whole other ball of wax. But we could go back and forth on that. My uncle always says when we are hunting "no matter what we do it's gonna be wrong." I feel like that sums up my career to this point; Allegheny, TWA, Flight Options. Hopefully Airtran makes it. Hopefully everyone makes it, this sure isn't the career it used to be. But unless we're gonna go back to school, or buy a franchise, this is all some of us know how to do. So the simple answer to your question for me Airtran or AMR, is Airtran. Feel free to pm me or charbroil me. So much for keeping it short.

 

[CommanderHoek]

Excellent post

I could not agree with you more tubelcane. Well said!

 

[HA25]

No, I can see your point.. but I am told Airtran is going thru hard times now, this is why I asked.. Are they really hiring 300 next year?

 

[tubelcane]

322 according to the training department.

 

[pkober]

Tubelcane,

It's good to see another TWA'er happy where they are currently. I'm the same. AA, reserve as a redheaded step child captain in 10+ years maybe, or CAL with a clean slate and a bright future and captain in 3-5 years. No brainer.

Good Luck.

 

[GIII Instructor]

I'm curius to see if the recalls continue at AA... Age 65 or greater than 60 sure seems to be heating. AA recalls (for now) are predicated on attrition not expansion. Everyone else seems to be expanding except for AA. Is that a bad thing? Not to the share holders. AA stock is higher than it has been in at least 6 years. Arpey and the bean counters seem to be happy with the way things are. Keep containment on capacity driving ticket prices higher.

 

[GIII Instructor]

I'm curius to see if the recalls continue at AA... Age 65 or greater than 60 sure seems to be heating. AA recalls (for now) are predicated on attrition not expansion. Everyone else seems to be expanding except for AA. Is that a bad thing? Not to the share holders. AA stock is higher than it has been in at least 6 years. Arpey and the bean counters seem to be happy with the way things are. Keep containment on capacity driving ticket prices higher.

 

[GIII Instructor]

did not mean to post twice...