mannyaplus11
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Big Slick said:Allow me to clarify.
I think the A and B funds will eventualy be gone for good. If other companies don't have them, we can't afford them. Neither can CAL. Basic math. The writing is on the wall, but some folks don't want to read it.
Here is my thought with the "evil" b-scale:
Lets say you get hired at American for the same pay/benefits as Jetblue. Right now that sounds pretty good. A lot of folks would be happy to have that job. Sure beats American Eagle. If things get better in 10 years, the union negotiates to get rid of the b-scale just like last time. If things never improve, Jetblue pay/benefits are the new standard.
Why is that such an evil idea?
OffHot said:Hey good news, even if the Air Traffic Controllers turn down their present contract, congress can force them to accept a contract that pays the avg. controller 187000 a year.
Big Slick said:Why is that such an evil idea?
General Lee said:American Air CFO says labor costs must be cut more
Wed Apr 5, 2006 4:02 PM ET
NEW YORK, April 5 (Reuters) - American Airlines' new chief financial officer said on Wednesday the carrier needs to cut labor costs further to stay competitive, even while hewing to the union-friendly strategy it has adopted in recent years.
AMR Corp.'s (AMR.N: Quote, Profile, Research) American won major concessions in 2003 after flirting with Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing but has since insisted that further pay cuts were off the table as it sought suggestions from unions on non-wage related cost reductions and revenue increases.
The No. 1 U.S. airline in the fourth quarter had higher unit costs than Continental Airlines (CAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and UAL Corp.'s (UAUA.O: Quote, Profile, Research) United Airlines and various discount carriers but lower than some other traditional carriers.
But with Delta Air Lines (DALRQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) and Northwest Airlines (NWACQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) slashing wages in bankruptcy, it may soon end up with the industry's highest expenses.
"The other airlines by virtue of the bankruptcy court have reduced their labor costs below where ours is today," said Thomas Horton, who returned as AMR's CFO after leaving nearly four years ago to take a similar job at the old AT&T Corp. (T.N: Quote, Profile, Research). "That represents a competitive problem."
Still, Horton, speaking in a conference call, said any attempt to cut labor costs would only happen within the context of the labor friendly approach the airline has followed.
"I think the strategy of engaging labor is really the only strategy there is," said Horton, who succeeds James Beer, who announced last month he was leaving the airline holding company to join software company Symantec Corp. (SYMC.O: Quote, Profile, Research).
Horton, who was part of a management team which oversaw AT&T's acquisition by SBC Communications Inc. last year, also said the airline industry could benefit from consolidation.
"It is an industry that probably has too much capacity," he said. "It's probably too fragmented."
But he said no major deals were likely any time soon, especially involving American, because of airline mergers' inherent complexity.
The problems of integrating labor forces and aircraft fleets have loomed as sticking points in many past deals.
Bye Bye--General Lee