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[HA25]

Thanks for the info. That is indeed different if they are just returning their atlantic schedule. Again, I remain optomistic that the economy will change all of this. Good luck all.

 

[TWA Dude]

From today's A&A:

Q: I'm hearing rumors that an American spokesperson said AA will be to 100% pre 9/11 by the end of this year, is this true?


A: We will be 100% of our aircraft utilization by year end. We will not be at 100% of the operating schedule of pre-September 11th. We will be at about 90% of our pre-September 11th operating schedule. Ten percent of the fleet was grounded (B727/B717).

Anne Evans
Director Flight Administration

 

[HA25]

That is too bad indeed. However I think there are two variables that can effect this:

1. Section 6 negotiations with AMR

2. The business traveller has YET to return. This rebound in traffic is mostly low yield leasure travel. As the economy build back up, so will high yield business travel. I say, that when business travel picks up to pre-911, so will American.

 

[Nocturnal1]

I was just at AA last month going through the sim. The door to recruiting is locked shut...and all inside is gathering dust. I tried to persuade some contacts I had there to give me the latest and there is no "latest". Wish I had better news! I too was one of those scheduled to start in Oct. 01. Best of luck to all of us.

 

[bayoubandit]

Hiring

For those of you who were waiting for a class date, here;s the answer to your question. This is from Ask & Answer

I know this is a long time away, but when hiring resumes, does AA have any plans to bring in the people who were hired (passed interview, medical) and awaiting a class date when the furlough occurred, or would those in that position have to reapply when pilot recruitment opens up again. Thanks in advance.



A couple of things will determine AA's policy when hiring starts. The first, as you pointed out, is the length of time before AA hires again. The second is any new regulations that might be a product of the September 11th events.

Obviously the longer period that passes before AA hires the greater the chance candidates will have to reapply. At a minimum, the medical will no longer be valid and the candidates experience gained during AA's non-hiring period will need to be reviewed. Also, we can predict with some certainty that new government hiring regulations/requirements will be in place which must be met making it hard to predict future requirements.

Kathy Gilmore
Flight Department
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[HA25]

Which all makes sense. They can't commit to keeping these people, should new govt rules preclude some of them for qualifying (which is unlikely in the first place). This is a simple cover your butt answer that say's we will do our best for them, with in reasonableness.

BTW, I talked with a AA recruiter recently who told me that there is still talk of possible hiring as early as Q1 next year. So I hold on to my optomisim, and maybe I'll be disappointed. So life goes.

 

[Clownpilot]

What?

Whats an AA recruiter?

You mean corporate recruiter?

What does that have to do with pilots?



>>BTW, I talked with a AA recruiter recently who told me that there is still talk of possible hiring as early as Q1 next year. So I hold on to my optomisim, and maybe I'll be disappointed. So life goes. [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[pilot141]

Hey everyone - info that might be useful here:

208 are being recalled to AA due to Supp CC (the TWA integration), and the NMB ruling on a combined seniority list.

This is not a voluntary recall by AA, but has been forced on them by the contract. The conventional wisdom was that once the 208 were recalled, TWA would get axed by about, ohh....lets say...208.

From what I have seen and heard, TWA is NOT going to furlough any more pilots, so this ends up being a real recall. Does this mean there are more recalls in the future? I doubt it.

The AA training system is overloaded with 727 people being retrained (including me - I don't have a training date yet), and it will be at least 3 or 4 months until all of the displacements and training due to the 727 retirements are complete. Add to this the recalls, and the training dept will be full until the fall of this year.

After that, you have to give Crew Scheduling a few months to figure out how they are going to fly the schedule with the pilots on the payroll; if they can get away with flying the folks on Reserve up to the monthly max, they will, with no more recalls.

With a system this big (over 13,000 pilots on the payroll), minor deviations to flying can be absorbed easily. If we see continued growth back up to pre 9/11 levels, then I'd expect some recalls in the early months of 2003. If the growth continues, expect the recalls to continue, and for everyone to be recalled by summer 2004.

I know this seems very pessimistic, but AMR is in the "maximize employee production" mode, not the "hire" mode. They will squeeze every hour of work out of every pilot without flexing any bid status as long as they can.

Just my opinion of course. If I ran the show every pilot would be back working tomorrow!

 

[BacktoAA]

Pilot141,

That's exactly the time frame I came up with also. If all continues to go well with the economy and the war on terrorism, I hope to be back between Christmas 2003 and the summer of 2004. I posted a question to the company about the schedule of future recalls, and although it wasn't posted on the website, they wrote me back and said the current plan is to recall the rest of us in 2003 and 2004. A big time frame there, but at least they're willing to state some numbers.

 

[HA25]

Re: What?

Whats an AA recruiter?

You mean corporate recruiter?

What does that have to do with pilots?



>>BTW, I talked with a AA recruiter recently who told me that there is still talk of possible hiring as early as Q1 next year. So I hold on to my optomisim, and maybe I'll be disappointed. So life goes.

[/B][/QUOTE]


Since this is a pilot message board, it would follow that the recruiter is for pilots. Anyway, this is going in circles, so I'll see you all later.

 

[VelcroJetDriver]

When things finally get back to "normal" and AA starts hiring again, what type of hours are competetive for a civilian. I have a letter of rec from an AA 777 CA. How much weight does this hold in the post-Cecil days?

Do they like to see multiple type-ratings like UAL, or just overall turbine PIC?

Thanks in advance.

 

[bayoubandit]

Velcro,

Check your PM.

bayoubandit

 

[Clownpilot]

Re: Re: What?

Yeah, well thats the problem. We don't have any pilot recruiters, or even a recruiting office any more, for that matter.

Thanks for sticking your nose in something you know nothing about.

Since this is a pilot message board, it would follow that the recruiter is for pilots. Anyway, this is going in circles, so I'll see you all later. [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[HA25]

Re: Re: Re: What?

Yeah, well thats the problem. We don't have any pilot recruiters, or even a recruiting office any more, for that matter.

Thanks for sticking your nose in something you know nothing about.




Well pal, you are dead wrong about the later point. I assure you.