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canyonblue

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Dallas Mrng News: AA Drops Prices To MO
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]Trip to Missouri gets cheaper
Wright amendment change is ahead; some airfares already reduced

12:00 AM CST on Wednesday, November 23, 2005
By ERIC TORBENSON / The Dallas Morning News

With President Bush expected to sign a bill exempting Missouri from Wright amendment flight restrictions next week, carriers are poised for a low-fare showdown.

Indeed, a fare war between Southwest Airlines Co. and American Airlines Inc. appears to have begun already.

Fort Worth-based American quietly lowered its fares from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to both St. Louis and Kansas City around Oct. 20, the carrier said Tuesday.

Southwest said last week that it plans to serve both cities from Dallas Love Field, its home airport.

American regularly competes against Southwest fares within the eight-state Wright perimeter that limits the Dallas-based discounter at Love.

American may also decide to start using its three gates at Love.

When priced in previous months, American round-trip tickets for last-minute travel between D/FW and St. Louis frequently exceeded $800.

Fares topped $1,000 between D/FW and Kansas City.

Now, the round-trip fare for travel next week is $377.40 to St. Louis and $526.40 to Kansas City. Both figures include taxes.

Comparisons for travel this week are difficult; flights are sold out for the holiday weekend.

American says that its lower Missouri fares resulted from its own review of the markets and that they were unrelated to the Missouri provision, which gained momentum in Congress last month.:laugh:

"We did this on our own," said American spokesman Tim Smith. :uzi:

The St. Louis and Kansas City reductions "came out of requests by our marketing people" in those cities, Mr. Smith said. :puke:

American lowered business fares from D/FW to both Nashville and Oklahoma City earlier this year, after concluding that it was missing some traffic that could fly over its network with lower fares.

During Senate subcommittee hearings on the Wright fight on Nov. 10, Southwest chairman Herb Kelleher said his carrier's walk-up fares to St. Louis would be $129 one-way, while American was charging $599.

After the hearing, American protested Mr. Kelleher's fare data, saying its lowest one-way walk-up fare was $253.
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Anyone know why they made Missouri exempt? Is there some reason in particular or did they just pick that state out of a hat?
 
Kit Bond, the congressman from MO, added the amendment to an appropriations bill. He wanted cheaper flights to and from his state. He is getting exactly what everyone else who gets SWA flights from Love will get. The Southwest effect is alive and well.

AA is probably going to regret the manner in which it cornholed its customers in the past. The Wright Ammendment is going away and the Southwest effect will be felt all over this great country.

I feel sorry for the AA guys who will carry the weight of their management. It isn't yalls fault your management never put you in a position to compete.
 
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]American says that its lower Missouri fares resulted from its own review of the markets and that they were unrelated to the Missouri provision, which gained momentum in Congress last month. [/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]

"We did this on our own," said American spokesman Tim Smith.

The St. Louis and Kansas City reductions "came out of requests by our marketing people" in those cities, Mr. Smith said.

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The Prussian said:
OK...so which is it, a man or a woman???

Me thinkst it's...a....man!

Well, Bond is either a man, or the ugliest woman I've ever seen.
 
So they lowered their fares from unaffordable to high priced. Now they are going to have to lower them further to match us when we announce the proper rates.

AA and the rest can be compared to the big oil companies. Gouge and Gouge until someone steps in and puts an end to their BS.
 
canyonblue said:
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]After the hearing, American protested Mr. Kelleher's fare data, saying its lowest one-way walk-up fare was $253.[/FONT]

Southwest chairman Herb Kelleher said his carrier's walk-up fares to St. Louis would be $129 one-way.

Ok, so we are half as cheap and not 4X. Still a better deal.
 
7S3W7A said:
AA and the rest can be compared to the big oil companies. Gouge and Gouge until someone steps in and puts an end to their BS.
Dude! How can you say that? What's BS is airlines not charging enough for tickets to even cover the fukin flight and making their employees subsidize flights for everybody.
 
7S3W7A said:
AA and the rest can be compared to the big oil companies. Gouge and Gouge until someone steps in and puts an end to their BS.

That is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read on flightinfo.
 
capt. megadeth said:
You are proud of this? One day this will bite yall in the a$$

And possibly the reason you aren't in Airline Management. There is always a price for any product, and most products are the same. Price your product to make money, get a good ROI and your company will prosper. Oh, and always send packages via DHL.
 
capt. megadeth said:
You are proud of this? One day this will bite yall in the a$$

Cheap tickets, the airline is making money, no concessions, employees are happy and so are the pax.
What's not to be proud of?
Plus, I think you should wait in the long line of folks that have been waiting for SWA to fall on their a$$ since 1971.
 
Drain the kool-aid bowl, this is spot on....

pipe said:
AA screwed STL, TWA, and MO. Good for Bond!!

....this about sums it up!

Bond is serving his constituents by trying to revive air service in and out of STL.

TWA used to provide 82% of the flight in/out of STL. There were even non-stop international flight to Europe, not to mention daily trailer park (B747) flight to Hawaii. After the dismantling of the STL hub by AA, he is just trying to get more flights to STL.

The business community has suffered in MO for the lack of direct air service. I am sure this was how he was able to parle the excemption.

JMHO

IAFOS

Jeff
 

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