AA 757's...could it be??

[AAflyer]

OZ, TWA... doesn't matter, pilots from both those airlines taught me more about the 80 in one year than I learned over the course of 5. Great group of aviators!

73

P.S. AAflyer, I bet you call for "Climb thrust" instead of "Climb power", yeah?

Who? Me?

I am going to need some retraining before going to another base.

AAflyer

 

[70-SS]

What's an American Metal Period? Do they sell those once a month?

C

It's called BOEING!!!!!! Made in the U.S.A.

 

[siucavflight]

They wont start expanding till the TWA FA's that are on furlough have their recall rights expire, then we will see growth at AA.

 

[dogtown]

It's called BOEING!!!!!! Made in the U.S.A.

Well not totally anymore, but assembled anyway.

 

[n757st]

Talk amongst yourselves. A buddy of mine who's not in flight ops at AA, but works there in some capacity came up with this.


AA will 'sell' the 757 fleet to FedEx.

At 12 A/C per year transfer starting in 2007, AA will be paid for winglets and cargo conversions as well as win a contract for oodles and oodles of FedEx heavy MX. Take advantage of the 757 when the value is the highest.

AA will sign a deal for 120 A320 series A/C delivered at 24 per year for the next 4 years 2007-11. These will be a mix of 12 320, to replace the 757 on domestic runs, and 12 319, to begin the MD80 replacement. Yes, at 150 seats (320) and 120 (319) we will be reducing the capacity and increasing demand while maintaining flight hours. These leases will be for 20 years and nearly free upfront as Airbus is desperate, and will end between 2027-31. The Airbus will be returned to the leaser and forgotten at that point, because...

Approx 2 hours after the Airbus deal is signed AA will announce the launch and purchase of the 797, 500 units, that will enter in 2012 and replace the remaining MD80s (250) and 757 (76) between 2012-22 and continue at that point to replace the 737 from 2023-25 and finally the 320 from 2026-30.

Also will be the announcement for the 787 replacing the A300 and 767 fleets, only a mere 120 units, small potatoes.

AA needs Airbus and they need AA. Plus the last thing AA wants to do is prolong the 737 production line. P&W is far along with the GTF that should be the pin in this whole plan.

How would they order the 797 if Boeing has not committed to anything more then a research stage? This kinda sounds like something I would expect to read at Airliners....

 

[AA717driver]

I love the 80--Hit the IAS/MACH button, pull the throttles to idle and watch it try to do an outside loop! TC

 

[t6av8r]

At least the MD80 didn't stop the Airbus demo pilot from going around and crashing in the trees, killing how many? Give me cables and old fashioned steam guages any day. The only good thing about an A320 series is that you have a place to put your crew meal................oh yeah, we don't get those anymore anyway.

 

[Tomct]

I have and its a piece of crap? Just my opinion though?

I have not either, but I agree with you Sonny! Poor decision by AA!!! A 75 replaced by a Scarebus....YGTBSM!!uke:

 

[TWA Dude]

At least the MD80 didn't stop the Airbus demo pilot from going around and crashing in the trees, killing how many?

Try doing a little research next time. That plane started it's go-around as soon as the captain decided to push the throttles foward. He f-ed up by not fully understanding the airplane's logic.

 

[ils2minimums]

Try doing a little research next time. That plane started it's go-around as soon as the captain decided to push the throttles foward. He f-ed up by not fully understanding the airplane's logic.

Negative Sir. He pushed the throttles forward, nothing happened. Then worried about the situation, he pulled them to idle and quickly pushed them forward again, then impact.

During the airshow, the aircraft was being flown by manually, so the plane did not "start it's go-around as soon as the captain decided to push the throttles forward".

AirDisaster.Com: Investigations: Air France 296

 

[Isla Mujeres]

According to this

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2]April 24, 06[/SIZE][/FONT]​

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Boeing to take on Airbus with (1000 seat) giant 797 Blended Wing plane[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]....[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]Boeing is preparing a 1000 passenger jet that could reshape the Air travel industry for the next 100 years. The radical Blended Wing design has been developed by Boeing in cooperation with the NASA Langley Research Center. The mammoth plane will have a wing span of 265 feet compared to the 747’s 211 feet, and is designed to fit within the newly created terminals used for the 555 seat Airbus A380, which is 262 feet wide. The new 797 is in direct response to the Airbus A380 which has racked up159 orders, but has not yet flown any passengers.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]....[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]Boeing decide to kill its 747X stretched super jumbo in 2003 after little interest was shown by airline companies, but has continued to develop the ultimate Airbus crusher 797 for years at its Phantom Works research facility in Long Beach, Calif. The Airbus A380 has been in the works since 1999 and has accumulated $13 billion in development costs, which gives Boeing a huge advantage now that Airbus has committed to the older style tubular aircraft for decades to come.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]....[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]There are several big advantages to the blended wing design, the most important being the lift to drag ratio which is expected to increase by an amazing 50%, with overall weight reduced by 25%, making it an estimated 33% more efficient than the A380, and making Airbus’s $13 billion dollar investment look pretty shaky. High body rigidity is another key factor in blended wing aircraft, it reduces turbulence and creates less stress on the air frame which adds to efficiency, giving the 797 a tremendous 8800 nautical mile range with its 1000 passengers flying comfortably at mach .88 or 654 mph cruising speed (another advantage over the Airbus tube-and-wing designed A380’s 570 mph)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]....[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]The exact date for introduction is unclear, yet the battle lines are clearly drawn in the high-stakes war for civilian air supremacy.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]”This is a great advancement in commercial aviation and a huge win for boeing"[/SIZE][/FONT]​

How are 500 B797s going to replace MD80s,757s,B737s and A320s??​

 

[pylut]

What's the difference between an Airbus and a chainsaw??

 

[pylut]

About 200 trees per minute

 

[V2+10]

At least the MD80 didn't stop the Airbus demo pilot from going around and crashing in the trees, killing how many? Give me cables and old fashioned steam guages any day. The only good thing about an A320 series is that you have a place to put your crew meal................oh yeah, we don't get those anymore anyway.

t6av8r

How quickly you forget how Alaska Airlines unsuccessfully tried to fly the MD-80 upside down off the coast of Los Angeles and crashed into the Pacific Ocean. Killing how many? God rest their souls, they tried to fly it but couldn't. Can you imagine if it had been on film...

Before you spout off, have a clue!

 

[CHIEEEEFS]

t6av8r

How quickly you forget how Alaska Airlines unsuccessfully tried to fly the MD-80 upside down off the coast of Los Angeles and crashed into the Pacific Ocean. Killing how many? God rest their souls, they tried to fly it but couldn't. Can you imagine if it had been on film...

Before you spout off, have a clue!

You sir are a complete retard or completely ignorant of that incident. I don't think anyone can fly any aircraft sans the horz stab. An MD80 minus the tail vs. an airbi in an incorrect flight mode has no comparison. Please do not 'attempt' do defend your loved 320 by bringing up unsuitable accident profiles for debate, hoping you will impress and delude those here. Thanks.

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

The Stab fell off you idiot and it's MD-83....ship 963. They lost 88 people.

 

[Tomct]

The Stab fell off you idiot and it's MD-83....ship 963. They lost 88 people.

Redneck, don't worry about V2's reply, he is still trying to figure out WHY his airplane did that.....no wait....not that.....turn off the A/P....can't...SH!T!! Tell the computer @##@$%^$$%$$, NOTHING!!

 

[Fox-Tree]

The Stab fell off you idiot and it's MD-83....ship 963. They lost 88 people.

The stab actually came off? I guess I was under the impression that it was just "flapping" back there with no control over it after the jackscrew disconnected (or whatever the deal was back there).

Either way - a mechanical failure that has nothing to do with a lack of systems knowledge (like Fifi's accident in France).

 

[TWA Dude]

AirDisaster.Com: Investigations: Air France 296

Interesting reading. Completely contradicts what we were taught in training. So here's the choice: believe that the pilots screwed-up or believe that an elaborate conspiracy/cover-up took place. Which is more likely?

 

[Tomct]

Interesting reading. Completely contradicts what we were taught in training. So here's the choice: believe that the pilots screwed-up or believe that an elaborate conspiracy/cover-up took place. Which is more likely?

Cover Up. They need to keep giving their airplanes away to get people to buy them. Just look at the "Mistake 380!" That thing is going to be one big White Elephant and according to Aviation Weekly, they are going to have to sell DOUBLE the aircraft just to break even! I believe the number was about 5-600 aircraft. Yeah, don't see that happening! The lilly pads are sinking, the ponds getting bigger and the frogs can't swim! Frog Legs anyone....