A340 question for those who fly them

[checkessential]

What is the problem? Are you sure that it was the ailerons you were looking at? Were the roll spoilers deployed? Could you see both wings? Please excuse my inattention to particular detail which you yourself forgot to include. I didn't realize this was so serious......

 

[rumpletumbler]

At 08-01-2002 09:19 I posted the following in this thread:

No I didn't see the other wing.

At 08-02-2002 13:15 I posted the following in this thread:

Someone will be smart enough to go back and say that they saw that I didn't see the other aileron.

This what I mean by having to repeat things. I'm not trying to offend you and am not angry etc. It would be my preference though that someone actually read a thread before responding to it. It isn't that serious. Remember it can be hard to know someones frame of mind from reading e-mail, posts, etc. Especially with me. I should be more carefull.

As for them being ailerons if they were spoilers they were the largest spoilers I've ever seen by a big stretch. It was a large control surface and in the same position you would expect it to be for an aileron.

RT

 

[checkessential]

You pose a good question. Most likely the ailerons were acting in tandem to provide a load alleviation function, or the aileron computers calculate a minimum drag position for the takeoff based on CG and weight. I don't really know jack about the a340, so I'll look for the answer too....

 

[Vik]

RT,

I dont take this message board that seriously. It was a joke. You just seemed to be on the verge of having a stroke so I figured a little humor might be in order.

 

[bigD]

rt - I'm just trying to get a sense of what happened here...so the ailerons gradually moved back into a neautral position as the plane was taking the runway, right? And you said you saw the aileron on the other wing deflected the other way too? I'd guess the PF just had some correction in for the taxi. What exactly is the problem, and why are you so worked up?





And yes, I'm laughing as I write this!

 

[Dieterly]

The ailerons were at full deflection from taxi through takeoff until the point of rotation.

How do you know they were at full deflection, did you run into the cockpit and brought up the flight control page on the lower ECAM (full deflection is +/- 25 degrees)

Take off and rotation is flown just like a normal steam driven aircraft, but immediatley after you get airborne the flight mode is progressively blended in, and then you have one of the nicest A/C's ever built (at least the -330), it makes the 757/767 look like a pile $hit.

 

[rumpletumbler]

It was just obvious. There is a point where after that you get diminishing returns for the control surface to keep moving and I believe but don't have any factual data to support that the deflection was full. I didn't say it wasn't a nice aircraft. If anyone ever responds that has actually flown the airplane then I think we will have our answer.

RT

 

[Crabtree]

Just one quick question.............were they in full deflection before rotation?........................sorry couldnt resist!