A must read about Seniority and what East pilots think

[FoxHunter]

I've been two mergers, both times on the side that wanted DOH. In both cases it went in relative seniority. In the second case the arbitrator(Nicolau) actually used numbers for a future date based on aircraft on order which resulted in a worse outcome. Looks to me like the US Air East group is totally out of touch with reality.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Ya think?

 

[Cheeta]

This message sounds like it was crafted by someone in regional airline managment. Sounds like something JO would say.....cloud the issue.

Putting this sh!t out.....

Easties are no better than JO!

 

[TWA Dude]

What a joke - why bother explaining the logic behind a losing argument.

Thank you! Since you wrote that I don't have to.

For the record, the USAPA missive was in response to a message the LAS rep put out trying to explain how the Nicolau list doesn't affect the Easties as bad as they think. Though well-intentioned it's futile. The sense of entitlement of the Easties will only be broken down over time when reality finally breaks through their defense mechanisms.

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

FWIW, the 9th circuit is TOTALLY unpredictable in their rulings. While unlikely, they could produce a ruling that resets the whole thing to zero.

Nu

 

[Raoul Duke]

That may have been the case at the outset of the DFR proceeding but because of all of the help given the West by Bradford and his little email stash there is virtually zero chance of a reversal. I sat in the court room and saw his emails - you know the ones where he says essentially "ok anytime we discuss the reasoning for creating USAPA we need to make sure we dont focus on bypassing the Nic - even though that is the true reason". Judges do not like people who write things like that. Judge Wake did not like it and he wrote an extremely detailed opinion that made many findings of fact to support his decision. In an appeal, all findings of fact made by the lower court are accepted as correct (virtually without exception). The only decision facing the court of appeals is whether Judge Wake applied the law correctly - which we all know (even the East Pilots and even Sheeam) he did.

 

[dispatchguy]

why we expect to prevail on appeal.

I want what the jackass who originally wrote this is smoking; sounds like a reasonable suspicion whiz quiz to me...

 

[T2Bus]

I want what the jackass who originally wrote this is smoking; sounds like a reasonable suspicion whiz quiz to me...

MCDU is smoking Taco shells again...you don't want that. He works for Taco Bell, wishing he could fly with the real men of USAPA, or maybe carrying their flight bags would be cool.

 

[MCDU]

MCDU is smoking Taco shells again...you don't want that. He works for Taco Bell, wishing he could fly with the real men of USAPA, or maybe carrying their flight bags would be cool.

Try again. Easties do not carry flightbags anymore. You should know that.
What else do you have in mind Dave.

M

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Try again. Easties do not carry flightbags anymore. You should know that.
What else do you have in mind Dave.

M

Maybe you should tell the moderators on him crybaby!

What's the matter Marty Mcdoosh? Is your man having a bad day again?

:bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

 

[MCDU]

Not has bad as yours Dope. You sit on the computer all day long and wait til I post.
You know that you are a loser, when the highlight of your day is posting the same crap over and over. I guess its part of the tourettes you suffer. Now go back and keep monitoring that computer and maybe some day you will get a life and stop taking handouts from your parents.

M

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Not has bad as yours Dope. You sit on the computer all day long and wait til I post.
You know that you are a loser, when the highlight of your day is posting the same crap over and over. I guess its part of the tourettes you suffer. Now go back and keep monitoring that computer and maybe some day you will get a life and stop taking handouts from your parents.

M

So marty, do you run to the teacher during recess when they take the ball away from you? It must be tough being the only fat kid in the playground! Now run along, tell the moderators, quick!:crying::crying:

Oh, and doosh, I'm actually taking handouts from YOUR parents!:laugh:

 

[T2Bus]

Taco Bell is calling you, late again.

 

[eglguy]

and so again we get a re-hash of the east failed negotiating stance circa 2005

that's what i was thinking.