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Dear APA, SWAPA, IPA, and especially ALPA aviators,

The pro-union pilots of JetBlue apologize for not unionizing. Please understand we don’t expect you to accept our apology. JetBlue pilots have no one to blame but JetBlue pilots for collectively selecting No Representation in an official NMB vote. (How a professional pilot group could opt out of representation is beyond us but, by God, that is indeed what we did.)

Should your airline ever acquire or merge with ours, we expect you to treat us like the unrepresented pilots we’ve chosen to be. Please know we will take no offense to any adverse outcome. If we are ever stapled to your seniority list we will take it as a gift that you didn’t reduce us to preferential interviews, because you could do that too since a merger could easily transpire without triggering McCaskill-Bond. Unfortunately, less than 50% of JetBlue pilots who care enough to vote care enough to understand the details of McCaskill-Bond. Regardless, whether you do it to protect your own seniority or even if you just do it for sport, we will accept an adverse SLI with an “Aw shucks” followed by a kick of the ground proceeded by shutting up, sitting down, and doing what we’re told. In short, we would be blithering dunderheads to complain about getting wet when we’re standing outside naked in a torrential downpour without an umbrella.

More notably, we apologize for our substandard contracts and how they may affect your enviable CBA negotiations. We have the lowest percentage Flight Ops budget and the lowest PCASM in the majors. Obviously, and even though we feel that we work hard, none of our minimalistic financial metrics are due to anything exceptional about us. Your airline likely profits better than ours even. We JB pilots simply have a perverse proclivity to adhere to a “yes sir, may I please have another kick in the head” labor model.

We would address our sadly enduring work rules, our oxymoronic Pilot Values Committee, our alleged Direct Relationship, and other things, but since all that could change tomorrow with an email from Management, it would only waste your time.

In closing, we’re severely disappointed that we still have just a job and haven’t progressed towards a career. Our inability to communicate to our fellow pilots is unquestionably inexcusable. Thank you to ALPA National for supporting our campaign as best as possible. Regrettably, we do not deserve a union at this time but we do deserve everything we are confronted with in the future, and we unequivocally understand that.

Unlimited luck, good health, and prosperity to you and your union brothers & sisters,

The Pro-Union Pilots of JetBlue Airways

Here are the members of the JetBlue ALPA Organizing Committee.
Joe Adkins
Scott Adkins
Jean-Paul Afif
Paul Agnew
Miguel Aguirre
Charlie Andrews
Ballard Argus
Michael Arthurs
Lucinda Aspden
Paul Atkins
Jason Baldwin
Paul Baltzer
Charles Bartlam
Keith Baugh
Michael Beall
James Beaumont
Ethan Bendavid
Charles Benfield
Kurt Bengtson
Jim Bigham
Greg Biskupic
Cade Black
Matthew Bliven
Chad Bortell
Raymond Bost
Archie Boyian Jr.
Edmund Brunnock
Scott Burke
Stephen Byrne
Jose Caballero
Mona Cates
Matt Catron
Robert Chapman
Suhas Chauhan
Randell Cholmondeley
Kurt Christiansen
Brendan Connolly
Richard Corbett
William Corder
John Costello
Carlos Coto
Neil Currier
Gary D’Angelo
Michael Dartley
Chris Daugherty
Vincent Davis
Brian Dawson
Cam Dawson
Lewis Deitch
Ed Del Monico
John DePauw
Mark De Salvo
Scott De Young
David Dillman
Hector Duque​
Rocky Durham
Marshall Ekstrand
Luis Elizondo
William Evans
James Ewart
Bill Eway
Robert Farnsworth
Scott Farnsworth
Peter Fassbender
Michael Feitinger
Robert Fenderson
Archie Fleming
Fernando Fonseca
Chris Forbes
Jim Ford
Anthony Frascino
Walt Fritsch
Heinrich Gerk
Paul Getman
Jay Ghahhari
David Gieseke
Anthony Gilbert
Roberto Giulioni
Dave Godin
Jeffrey Goode
Daniel Gorda
Mike Gregory
Brendan Haley
Patrick Hammerle
Todd Hammonds
Terry Hannigan
Lee Harvey
Raymond Harvey
David Hasslinger
Michael Hastey
Michael Healy
Michael Hefner
Dean Heimermann
Michael Hennigar
M. Hernandez-Vega
Jon Hicks
Rich Higgins
James Holcombe
Scott Hollier
Lance Hooley
John Hoting
Chris Howe
Nathan Hoyt
Jeffrey Hubbard
James Hughes
J.J. Hughes
Jerry Hurt
Andrew Hutcherson
Kier Hutto
Theodore Ifantis​
Darryl Inman
Ivan Jaffe
Edward Jimenez
Jared Jones
Michael Jorgensen
Johan Karlen
Kevin Kelly
Glenn Kennedy
Christopher Kenney
Garry King
Rob Kinyoun
Mark Klaben
Dimitrii Korionoff
Kelly Koshlap
Robert Kozlowski
Matthew Krakoff
Michael LaForest
Jack Lajinian
Sean Lane
Robert Laurence
John Paul Lazo
Derek Lee
Raudel Lemus
Frank Lennon
Brad Leopard
Darec Liebel
Jeffrey Louwers
Kimberly Lusk
Scott Lusk
Michael Madigan
John Marchelletta
Jeffrey Markowski
Bernard Marsh
Juanita Martinez
Frederick Mattfeld
Jason Mauk
Marcus McCall
Samuel McCarthy
Chris McCleskey
Michael McMackin
Mark Meade
Carlos Mederos
Raymond Meunier
Curtin Miller
Grant Miller
Lawrence Miller
Stephen Miller
David Mills
John Minnich
Brian Moore
Shane Murphy
Randall Myzer
Guy Nebel
Philip Nell
Demosthenes Nestoros​
Michael Nystrom
John Norton
Paul O’Hare
Ryan O’Harren
David Oltorik
Joseph Owens
Anthony Palmere
Todd Papesh
Sean Parker
Michael Pashinski
Andre Payette
Denis Pecile
Mark Pehrson
Douglas Pelchat
Pete Petersen
Mark Peterson
Tim Phillips
Patrick Phillips
Scott Piel
Colin Pires
Mike Plesko
Russ Pomarico
Chris Prusak
Charlie Pucciariello
Carman Ragonese
Javier Ramos-Green
Lucas Raymor
David Razler
Todd Redmond
Fred Reeb
Jeffrey Rees
Vernon Reese
Curtis Reinhardt
Jonathan Reynolds
Michael Riley
Trisha Rintoul
Charles Ritter
Gustavo Rivera
Mark Robinson
Dean Rodier
Richard Ross
Gabriel Rubin
John Sabini
Tony Sandrolini
Steve Savino
Andrew Sclafani
Corey Schmidt
Nicholas Scola
Jack Seeley
Michael Sharp Jr.
Justin Shearer
Scott Silva
David Sinclair Jr.
William Sipher
Steven Smale​
Craig Smith
Jason Smith
Matthew Smith
William Smith
Gray Snipes
Michael Sorbie
Eric Spilman
Stacy Stader
Scott Stafford Jr.
Troy Stark
Douglas Stefanko
Steve Stephens
John Stevens
Neil Strieff
Chris Sukeena
Brian Sullivan
Joshua Sult
Patrick Suver
Ryan Taber
Andrew Taggart
Burton Tarvin
Carlos Taylor
Jens Thiberg
Barton Thomas
Knut Thomassen
Kevin Tinney
Larry Toigo
Clint Tolbert
Timothy Townsend
Jeff Tuning
William Turberville II
Mark Upson
Bobby Vassilatos
Jennifer Vassilatos
Joseph Vesce
Tye von Gunten
Paul Wadlington
Steven Walker
Jack Walsh
Pat Walsh
Alex Walter
Robert Wanes
William Wasserman
Ted Weaver
Chris Wedes
Brian Whiting
Mark Whitson
Lawrence Wicklund
Brian Wills
David Wilson
Steven Zahler​
 
All truly worthy of a salute. I notice a lot of ex-BlueRidgers on that list. :beer:
 
"Robert Chapman" wow... ex TWA pilot... now why in heck would you want ALPA all over again, dude?
 
great people with dreams......I am honored to know many of these people.....and i am not surpride the many freedom airlines s---s are not on this list.....saludos
 
"Robert Chapman" wow... ex TWA pilot... now why in heck would you want ALPA all over again, dude?


There are many X TWA folks on this list. Those folks are smart enough to be part of the lawsuit on one hand, but also realize that a CBA also gave them the right to file collectivly. Never mind the fact that no matter how crappy it turned out, recall rights to AA. Try doing any of that with a "direct relationship".
 
These pilots all deserve a big high five. You can't fault them for wanting a bit more security and some leverage in a negotiating scenario.

Again, what will Barger offer in return for the ALPA thumbs down???? What "good" will come from it for the pilots in terms of new benefits or cash?
 
These pilots all deserve a big high five. You can't fault them for wanting a bit more security and some leverage in a negotiating scenario.

Again, what will Barger offer in return for the ALPA thumbs down???? What "good" will come from it for the pilots in terms of new benefits or cash?

Thanks johnson rod we all appreciate the kudos. What will come from it is a big nothing, which is what they promised. Management offered absolutley nothing during the campaign. Remember though 3 years ago during the JBPA campaign " We get it now". They now just bought themselves even more time and saved millions. They are laughing hysterically at this pilot group right now.
 
What's funny, is that most people are pro-union at Jetblue but not pro-ALPA. Let's face it, ALPA has some serious issues with the TWA fiasco, DPA push and other such nonsense. Not to mention the most vocal ALPA guys (like any other union campaign) are some of the biggest train wrecks and poster children for doom and gloom at Jetblue. You know the kind, the folks that you end up flying a 4 day trip with and walk away realizing that the dude is miserable about everything.
 
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