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[Flyer1015]

No wonder they trash the contract and don't care about it. Nobody tries to enforce it. They just say "Meh, it's Pinnacle. It won't get done" and don't challenge it. As long as someone within ALPA does something, we will get flashlights or an LOA. I am sure it is low on the priority list right now, but it seems pretty cut and dry. Why is everyone so worked up about hotel language in the contract? The company will do what they want anyways, right?

Yeah, I'd say that sounds about right. Remember the ALPA motto... "fly first, greive later." Go ahead, get screwed, bend over and take it. Then, later file the paperwork, and hope you are correct enough to get a measly financial incentive. If you're lucky!

Remember, there's a reason Pinnacle's contract negotiations dragged on for so long. We had a chance to be released by the NMB, but a certain member of the union declined that option.

 

[biscuit]

Mounted flashlights in the RJ don't turn off once you pull them. Good luck with that. OH MY GOD I NEED A FLASHLIGHT WAAAH. You need pants, a belt, socks, underwear, shirt, tie, suitcase and chart case too. They don;t issue toothbrush or razor either.

They turn off when you put them back in the holder. It is a magnetic switch.

 

[CptMurf]

Yeah, I'd say that sounds about right. Remember the ALPA motto... "fly first, greive later." Go ahead, get screwed, bend over and take it. Then, later file the paperwork, and hope you are correct enough to get a measly financial incentive. If you're lucky!

Remember, there's a reason Pinnacle's contract negotiations dragged on for so long. We had a chance to be released by the NMB, but a certain member of the union declined that option.

There's an obvious difference between your version of ALPA and what we are used too. Our MEC was strong, they got their strength from a cohesive pilot group, and because of it, we didn't let or have the company try to walk over our CBA. Now, I'm sure the companies willingness to honor it comes into play, and it seems our new union is in for an uphill battle, but what we need from the negative, ALPA bashing, it's never going to get better folks, is to at least understand that there is a new movement to try to make everything better. It is not going to be the same old Pinnacle that you have known. A little trust, a little understanding, and little less attitude is all we ask. I'm not saying that you won't be asked to "fly first, grieve later," that just how it goes. We need the company to remain profitable if we want to make it better, or even retain our employment. But instead of complaining on an Internet board, the union needs information. Know the contract, report violations, talk to your reps, and you might try volunteering. You'll be better informed, and have a platform to make your concerns a priority. This company is changing from the top down with SM, and from the bottom up with your new pilot coworkers. Accept the changes, voice your concerns, try to make it better yourself, but most of all quit bashing on those that are motivated enough to volunteer their time to make your life better.

 

[Inconceivable]

Remember the ALPA motto... "fly first, greive later." Go ahead, get screwed, bend over and take it.

No, that's the law. 45 USC 8 §151-188.

 

[RJLoser]

PCL guy need to listen up. This isn't about flashlights.

 

[Flyer1015]

No, that's the law. 45 USC 8 §151-188.

Railway Labor Act? Another useless act in the 21st century, that somehow still applies to airlines. And stop making excuses for management.

 

[Inconceivable]

Railway Labor Act? Another useless act in the 21st century, that somehow still applies to airlines. And stop making excuses for management.

Actually, if I were making excuses it would be for ALPA, not management. Can you not focus your impotent rage long enough to follow the line of the argument that you started?

 

[Flyer1015]

Actually, if I were making excuses it would be for ALPA, not management. Can you not focus your impotent rage long enough to follow the line of the argument that you started?

Point is if something violates the CBA, and yet you are still being forced to fly, you should just be able to walk away from it and say no, I cannot do something that violates my own CBA.