9/11-Pilots let hijackers in?

[350DRIVER]

Dubya,

The only factual evidence that has been made public would indicate that there was no person(s) in the j/s on pushback from the gate. The agents would have had a copy, etc, etc, it just does not add up nor would it agree with what is known present day in my opinion. I recall very clearly about the missing uniforms story and I can't imagine those being used on 911. Am I 100% for sure? Absolutely not, but I would be somewhat surprised if it turned out that these guys were sitting j/s during push or anything afterwards. The security videos clearly show what these guys were wearing on 911. I would highly suggest reading "Among The Heroes" written by Jere Longman, it really goes into detail about what these terrorists were to wear and how they were to act on this eventful day. These 19 were to carry "instructions" on everything from what to wear, how to act, how to look, etc, etc, and this book goes into great detail and exact wording from the "booklet" supposedly given to each of them by OBL. I am not sure how Longman obtained this copy, if I recall correctly it was from the rental car in BOS.


If you want to go into detail then I highly suggest obtaining a copy of this book.


Without hearing the entire cvr's I am just speculating and obtaining my opinion from what has been made public information, most likely we will never know all that had transpired on that day.

I could be completely mistaken but that is just my opinion that has been formed after reviewing what has been available to me.

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[Dubya]

Dubya,

The only factual evidence that has been made public would indicate that there was no person(s) in the j/s on pushback from the gate. The agents would have had a copy, etc, etc, it just does not add up nor would it agree with what is known present day in my opinion. I recall very clearly about the missing uniforms story and I can't imagine those being used on 911. Am I 100% for sure? Absolutely not, but I would be somewhat surprised if it turned out that these guys were sitting j/s during push or anything afterwards. The security videos clearly show what these guys were wearing on 911. I would highly suggest reading "Among The Heroes" written by Jere Longman, it really goes into detail about what these terrorists were to wear and how they were to act on this eventful day. These 19 were to carry "instructions" on everything from what to wear, how to act, how to look, etc, etc, and this book goes into great detail and exact wording from the "booklet" supposedly given to each of them by OBL. I am not sure how Longman obtained this copy, if I recall correctly it was from the rental car in BOS.


If you want to go into detail then I highly suggest obtaining a copy of this book.


Without hearing the entire cvr's I am just speculating and obtaining my opinion from what has been made public information, most likely we will never know all that had transpired on that day.

I could be completely mistaken but that is just my opinion that has been formed after reviewing what has been available to me.

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Thanks! I will do that. I was having a difficult time believing what this guy was saying because I had heard some of the same things you just mentioned...but I didn't want to argue with him (imagine that!) so I just let it be. That book is on my list now. Thanks again.

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[urflyingme?!]

I spoke with a senior TSA employee that heard the CVR and said that there was a fight into the ground. I don't remember which flight it was though. But it goes against:

Relying on the cockpit recorder and flight data, the commission said terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah violently rocked the jet's wings and told another hijacker to block the door. With the sounds of fighting outside the cockpit, Jarrah asked, "Is that it? Shall we finish it off?"

Another hijacker, who wasn't identified, replied, "No, not yet. When they all come, we finish it off."

Jarrah then began pitching the nose of the plane up and down to throw passengers off balance.
Seconds later, a passenger who wasn't identified yelled, "In the cockpit! If we don't, we die!" And 16 seconds afterward, another passenger yelled, "Roll it!" Investigators previously have said they believe passengers tried to use a food cart to break the cockpit door.

Jarrah said, "Allah is the greatest! Allah is the greatest!", and he asked his fellow hijacker, "Is that it? I mean, shall we put it down?"

The other hijacker answered, "Yes, put it in, and pull it down."


He said that there was a terrible struggle in the cockpit complete with what i remember him saying was a flight crew member screaming about something pertaining to the crash....
Not sure which flight it was, but i thought it was 93. He said it was the worst thing he ever heard, and coming from a airline crash team member I'd assume he's heard quite a few cvr's from disasters...

 

[Tripower455]

Everybody knew that security was weak but every time someone spoke up the flight crews got another enema performed while going through security while the cleaners, caterers, fuelers etc..still came through the unmonitered entrances with nothing but a pass card checked.

Ironic that even after 9/11, that this still hasn't changed.....................