800+ RJs slashed from now to 2013

[lookin4better]

a silver lining in this whole fuel mess......these things are ruining this industry anyway.....good bye rj

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Bueller, round-trips are usually cheaper than one-ways.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Bring on the turbo-props! I'm sure Bombardier would love to cut Comair and ASA great exchange deals on Q's in return for the RJs coming back

 

[11thHour]

Turbo props were fun to fly, but I've got to be honest - I'm in no hurry to go back to 6-8 legs a day! Ugh!

 

[tuna pimp]

i booked a flight in 2 weeks on Delta (ASA) from SAT to ATL for 849.00 for one pax. Anyone care to comment on 70 seat operating costs and if, hypothetically, all 70 folks were paying this price what the cost and net profit would be?

Cheers- Rum

Rum, based on ASA's 3Q07 reported costs and with fuel dialed in at $3.50/USG a 874sm stage length on a CRJ700 has a trip cost of $7,917 (61,180ASMs x 12.94 cent CASM). Assume 9.5 hrs/day utilization.

At a 100% LF that puts the BE fare at $113 one way.

If we assume an 80% average LF then the average fare must be $7917/(70x0.8) = $141 one way

If you paid $849 / 2 = $424 each way and let's take 25% off for taxes and other stupid bend over and take it fees then your contribution was $318 to each o/w segment.

So your contribution was 36.38 cents per mile versus ASA's cost per mile of 12.94 cents per mile.

yeah you got screwed, Jack.

 

[N2264J]

a silver lining in this whole fuel mess......these things are ruining this industry anyway.....good bye rj

There's going to be a lot of mainline planes parked too.

This is an industry wide problem. But it's not just that - the airlines are just the canary in the mineshaft. In an economy that teeters on cheap, abundant oil, this is going to touch all Americans where they live.

 

[LegacyDriver]

You have to forgive Rum, he's not the sharpest knife... Although he has a financial background!!!

I bet he bought TWO tickets for that total cost. I sure hope so.

 

[rumrnr78]

You have to forgive Rum, he's not the sharpest knife... Although he has a financial background!!!

I bet he bought TWO tickets for that total cost. I sure hope so.

No, that was for a round trip refundable, full-fare ticket from SAT to ATL and back. The prices range from 740.00 to 1140.00. Now, plans have changed and no Duran Duran concert in ATL for me:crying:.

I love how everyone jumps on me and says I got screwed when the airlines are bleeding cash. You should want customers to be buying full-fare tickets!
Or, think like management that loves 100% load factors and cheap fares that lose money only to wring more concessions out of the employees.

Cheers- Rum

 

[outtahere]

This is all speculation for now. WHEN the oil bubble bursts, then you will see airlines not to quickly reduce airfares, which means extra money, which means more flights, which means diluted fares, which means more costs, which means losing money, which means we are right back where we started, with cheaper gas! I'm going into management.

 

[FlyAirtran]

i booked a flight in 2 weeks on Delta (ASA) from SAT to ATL for 849.00 for one pax. Anyone care to comment on 70 seat operating costs and if, hypothetically, all 70 folks were paying this price what the cost and net profit would be?

Cheers- Rum

Airtran flys SAT - ATL did you check to see how much our fare was? You might have saved some cash.