"787 is predicting another six-month slip"

[viper548]

Actually, it's all good at the rate of inflation, by 2011 those planes will basically be free.

No kidding!

 

[IronCityBlue]

Richard Anderson supposedly said we will be getting 40 777LRs, thanks to our 738 options that can be converted to 777s. You have 18 787s on firm order (with no FIRM delivery date I guess), and 50 on option. Do you have any other airplanes on order besides the 787s? We also will be getting up to 25 total 737-700s.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You kind of beat me to the punch with that response. I would also add options should IN NO WAY ever count, as they are worthless. If that were the case, pilot groups would go to management before a merger and tell them to "order" 500 options for something and then use that against another pilot group.

Even "firm" orders are nebulous at best, as if its not on property yet it really hasn't happened. For NWA pilots to try and get credit for all their 787 options is laughable at best. The 787 is plagued with issues and all signs point to it being the E-190 of first world aircraft for quite a while. Plagued by delays, bugs and probably airworthiness directives and emergency inspections, etc. Not only is it a new airplane, which all have such issues, its a new type of airplane entirely, so its reasonable to expect far more issues than most new fleet types do.

I think Delta and United are actually being smart about waiting to order the 787 until they 1. actually fly, 2. are actually placed in revenue service, and 3. make sure they perform as promised, both for fuel efficiency and reliability. By then, the A350 will be a viable option as well, and the 787 will likely be available cheaper.

Should NWA get credit for the C series DC-9 replacements that hasn't even been completely designed yet? Didn't Delta express an interest in the Boeing Sonic cruiser at some point? United just told Boeing to build a modern 737 replacement, so it could be argued that they will order 300 of those, so if them merge with someone, should they get credit for that, too?

Both Delta and NWA have orders and options, and will, stand alone, get more in the not too distant future. Trying to "get credit" for a future that hasn't happened yet doesn't necessarily qualify as "pre-merger career expectations," though I do understand both sides trying to passionately protect their pilot groups as articulately as possible. Neither side should expect anything less.

 

[JAM-BRO]

GEN

When you start agreeing with ANYTHING "d!k hed" jke409 has to say, you loose any credibiity you have left...

Hey DTW319,

What is your opinion on the latest delay of the 787s? We didn't make this up, it happened on it's own. You must be dissappointed. JKE does have a point though. How can you expect to get credit on a future plane that hasn't been built or flown yet for SLI? I think we may order Space Shuttles EVENTUALLY, and I think only our pilots should fly them, when they come between the years of 2033 and 2045. I am almost pretty sure that we will be ordering some, and it was MY UNDERSTANDING as a newhire back in '96 that I WOULD BE FLYING LEFT SEAT TO THE MOON IN A SPACE SHUTTLE BEFORE I RETIRED AT 65(I knew the age change would happen back then too---sure I did). You have to give me credit for that in arbitration darn it!!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[IronCityBlue]

GEN

When you start agreeing with ANYTHING "d!k hed" jke409 has to say, you loose any credibiity you have left...

:laugh: Yeah but even a broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

 

[SuperFLUF]

If Chewbacca is a wookie you must acquit.

Look at the silly monkey!