717's at Delta

[Linedriver]

How long are the proposed leases on the 717's should this agreement pass?

 

[180ToTheMarker]

How long are the proposed leases on the 717's should this agreement pass?

Probably not as long as the leases on the big RJs we are gonna allow:angryfire

 

[redflyer65]

Ouch!

 

[wms]

Please vote no. But they'll cave.

 

[PCL_128]

If you're just assuming the same leases that we had, then they expire between 2017-2022.

 

[Lear70]

2024

A big chunk in 2017 and 2018, then a trickle from 2019-2022, then the rest in two big chunks in 2023 and 2024. Klaus sent us the list but I don't have it handy, just remember the main details.

 

[General Lee]

Probably not as long as the leases on the big RJs we are gonna allow:angryfire

But 200 50 seat RJs leases will expire really fast, and that means less outsourcing.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

But 200 50 seat RJs leases will expire really fast, and that means less outsourcing.


Bye Bye---General Lee

C'mon general- be real- the 70 new -900's could mean hundreds of new mainline jobs- but instead you're reloading a whipsaw market that has unprecedented economic pressure on it- and you're giving it away for a smaller raise than youve earned.

How did they sell it to you? New 717's to delta? Maybe you'll get an upgrade general?

Don't count on it- if you haven't heard- the ATALPA MEC is pressing their rights in their fragmentation clause to go with the airplanes to delta- surely, as a fellow ALPA member you'll support their contract in this matter- its pretty clear the language is triggered.

For fun, what say you "union brother"-?

 

[Lear70]

OK, this should be good...

 

[SLUF4]

How long are the proposed leases on the 717's should this agreement pass?

excellent question

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Leases could have been renegotiated during AirTran merger/737 Max purchase.

 

[SLUF4]

I believe he means the leases that Delta will have on them.

 

[PCL_128]

Don't take the bait, General. Ignore the troll.

 

[EngineThunder]

Delta will give them relative seniority, right General?

 

[redflyer65]

DOH I'm sure. Delta hire date would equal Airtran hire date.

 

[waveflyer]

C'mon general, one troll to another....

 

[EngineThunder]

He is too busy figuring out where he is going to spend his 19 percent raise.

 

[General Lee]

He is too busy figuring out where he is going to spend his 19 percent raise.

45% raise if I go to the left seat in NYC on the 737. I'd commute for a $70 an hour raise.


Bye Bye--- General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

So general, what do you think about AT defending their fragmentation clause?
I'm sure you'd rather hire off the street, but if it's in their contract...
Looks more like a reality you have-
How do those 717's get you to a 73 upgrade?

 

[180ToTheMarker]

So general, what do you think about AT defending their fragmentation clause?
I'm sure you'd rather hire off the street, but if it's in their contract...
Looks more like a reality you have-
How do those 717's get you to a 73 upgrade?

If AT returns the 717s to Boeing and then Boeing subsequently leases them to DAL, does that trigger the fragmentation clause?