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Mesa can't file BK. It would be the end. They would lose all of their contracts. That's why they're flying CRJ2s in HI at major losses, better than having them just sit in PHX. Pump up the stock value a little... No other airline would operate with a stock that's worth pennies without filing BK. It's quite possible that this is just a case of hearsay that PF's words were taken out of context. However UA can and will opt out of the 36 airplanes in 2010. Either way Mesa only has about 6 to 12 months to go before either Ch11 or liquidation.
 
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I predict that when Mesa does finally bite the dust, it will be one of those doors locked with no warning deals. The crews out on overnights will find out on CNN in the hotel and have to find their own way home.
 
flyboyzz1 said:
but they have a CRJ to fly home...! VFR in a CRJ.
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Gotta have gas, there isn't a regional crew that could afford to put in enough gas for the APU, much less flight.
PBR
 
If you think vendors aren't watching closely think again. If messa chains the doors, expect the flight crews to be woken up, removed from their rooms and bypass the breakfast bar, quickly and quietly.
PBR
 
With all that I have read this just doesn’t pass the J.O. litmus test. If he furloughs 350 it sets off musical chairs in the training department. Lots of training events. Big $. If they furlough 350 more then the music starts again. Half of the chairs get removed and then the music stops. Presto, Big $ in training cost again. I have seen and always admired those on boards who can really get to the bottom of a rumor. So I have tried. I have a friend..... never mind. The standing bids administrator at Mesa SP has seen the thread over on APC. More to follow if I find out.

She says the BOD has been tip toeing around corporate for a while. Something is definitely brewing. It is being held in strict confidentially. She is usually the first to know for obvious reasons. She knows nothing about 700 furloughs. Just the current. When asked about this she wanted to see the source very enthusiastically. Hummmmmmm.

So maybe Mesa takes 50 Mil from Delta to just go away. We suspend the leases on the ERJs and most of the CRJ 100/200. 12 ERJs and 10 CRJ currently parked at 100,000 a month each. 2.2 mil just wasted. Some of the United CRJ 100/200s get pulled as well under the direction of United. They get replaced at a 1 to 3 ratio with 700s. The go away money from Delta is used to finance the new 700s for United that are bought at a killer recession deal.

Just a thought. Has no merit at all just me thinking.

Anyway J.O. will not do it unless he already knows that he can come out smelling like a rose. So who really knows what he is up to? He won’t shoot unless he knows he can rebound.
 
A-V-8 said:
With all that I have read this just doesn’t pass the J.O. litmus test. If he furloughs 350 it sets off musical chairs in the training department. Lots of training events. Big $. If they furlough 350 more then the music starts again. Half of the chairs get removed and then the music stops. Presto, Big $ in training cost again. I have seen and always admired those on boards who can really get to the bottom of a rumor. So I have tried. I have a friend..... never mind. The standing bids administrator at Mesa SP has seen the thread over on APC. More to follow if I find out.

She says the BOD has been tip toeing around corporate for a while. Something is definitely brewing. It is being held in strict confidentially. She is usually the first to know for obvious reasons. She knows nothing about 700 furloughs. Just the current. When asked about this she wanted to see the source very enthusiastically. Hummmmmmm.

So maybe Mesa takes 50 Mil from Delta to just go away. We suspend the leases on the ERJs and most of the CRJ 100/200. 12 ERJs and 10 CRJ currently parked at 100,000 a month each. 2.2 mil just wasted. Some of the United CRJ 100/200s get pulled as well under the direction of United. They get replaced at a 1 to 3 ratio with 700s. The go away money from Delta is used to finance the new 700s for United that are bought at a killer recession deal.

Just a thought. Has no merit at all just me thinking.

Anyway J.O. will not do it unless he already knows that he can come out smelling like a rose. So who really knows what he is up to? He won’t shoot unless he knows he can rebound.
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Where does the 50 mil number come from? How about a big fat 0 from Delta, they let them go BK with this UA deal and pull the contract then. That's certainly cheaper.
 
As I've been told, at Skywest the company pays the bill, then the major reimburses them for it. May differ for each airline.
 
Uncle Bunkle said:
And ExpressJet must have the absolute WORST FA's. Who hires those pigs?
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Dude PSA has the worst. Wake up in the morning and meet up at the van and BANG it hits you. The grandma perfume, the uniform that could be used as a circus tent, the big hair, and they love the friggin job. Out of 500 f/a's we have 3 worth talking about. The rest are the 3 g's. Sad really sad.

Oh and i am sorry for those that work under J.O. Quit now before the rush comes for the few remaining jobs out there.
 
PBRstreetgang said:
If you think vendors aren't watching closely think again. If messa chains the doors, expect the flight crews to be woken up, removed from their rooms and bypass the breakfast bar, quickly and quietly.
PBR
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They'll probably take their USAToday away too.:( "All right. Step away from the grab-n-go!" Hahaha
 
What do you call 700 furloughs at Mesa?.......................................A good start.
 
I don't know who hates Mesa more. Their passengers or the airport ground crews. Imagine the joy and happiness those two groups will feel when it finally happens.
 
Once again it must be asked

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Oh yea that's right. Run good airlines into the ground.
 
BrickTop said:
How about a couple of rodeo riding buddies and myself take your teeth out with vice grips, a steel leader and one pissed off bronco.
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Damn boy. How many do you think it would take?
 
Companies like Mesa and the pilots that took jobs there are what have turned this once proud career into a full-time job that pays less than a part-time fast food worker. The majority of the Mesa furloughed pilots took that job when just about every single company out there was hiring. I do not want to see anyone get furloughed, but if I had to pick which companies furlough, Mesa would be at the top of my list. There are other pilots that could afford to live before they were furloughed. The Mesa pilots can't afford to live while working so who gives a sh!t.
 
hockeypilot44 said:
Companies like Mesa and the pilots that took jobs there are what have turned this once proud career into a full-time job that pays less than a part-time fast food worker. The majority of the Mesa furloughed pilots took that job when just about every single company out there was hiring. I do not want to see anyone get furloughed, but if I had to pick which companies furlough, Mesa would be at the top of my list. There are other pilots that could afford to live before they were furloughed. The Mesa pilots can't afford to live while working so who gives a sh!t.
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hey, seriously... who are the clowns that say that mesa ruined the industry, the pilots are this and that..... ...

Its called the free market.... get used to it... lots of people have sacrificed their lives to protect it.


this is the same retarded arguement as the ones that want a 'liveable, fair wage' and those big bad businesses are making all that money on the backs of labor...

a fair wage is what two entities agree to for a given task, period
 
enuffalready said:
hey, seriously... who are the clowns that say that mesa ruined the industry, the pilots are this and that..... ...

Its called the free market.... get used to it... lots of people have sacrificed their lives to protect it.


this is the same retarded arguement as the ones that want a 'liveable, fair wage' and those big bad businesses are making all that money on the backs of labor...

a fair wage is what two entities agree to for a given task, period
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It looks like the free market is taking care of mesa as well.
 

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