30 year Career: US Legacies vs Emirates/Qatar/Ethiad

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

So true... How about the creepy old UAL pilots in BA with the 17 year old lady boys...

 

[Varmint]

How about an older captain with a double breasted jacket and red triangle on his hat making out with his young Japanese honey publicly in the lobby of the Osaka Hilton a few weeks ago. I have never seen a lobby full of appalled Japanese glaring at one time....now I have. Now that's a class act.

 

[Dornier 335]

regarding mamacitas....

I'd rather fly down south than east/west. Personal pref. Plus, it seems to be more ... errr accepted down there to do what men might just do.

 

[flyboyike]

It all depends the level of the wife happiness. I would say more than half of the EK guys that are married will take a job at the bottom of United to keep wife happy.

I've never seen a happy wife.

 

[Varmint]

I've never seen a happy wife.

You probably would if you had an Asian wife....lol

 

[Golden Falcon]

You probably would if you had an Asian wife....lol

Usually but not always....

 

[SAABaroowski]

Try to keep your seniority number back home if you can. Working for Emirates is fun but I sure wouldn't want to spend 25-35 years here. It's a good place to wait out a furlough or save some money the last 10 years of your career. Some can enjoy a career here but others might struggle.

Dubai can get old. You can only go to the mall so many times. Everything and I mean everything here is based on commerce. It costs money to go to the park. Some people love it others go crazy...Just make sure you do your homework before giving up a SWA number.

I've been happy here but I have an escape route lined up if things go south. Oh and be prepared to discover that all pilots from the USA are worthless aviators. We can't follow SOP's, don't follow proper RT, and are generally poor aircraft operators...lol You need a thick skin!

Jesus, sounds like a *************************g nightmare. I understand the money is great but don't you guys miss living in the states, BBQs with the family?, drinking beer on sundays watching football?, holidays, American culture etc...having the protection of the union "just in case". I know I'm oversimplifying it but there isn't enough money in the world for me to live the expat lifestyle......

 

[Dumb Pilot]

BBQs with the family?, drinking beer on sundays watching football?, holidays, American culture etc...having the protection of the union "just in case". I know I'm oversimplifying it but there isn't enough money in the world for me to live the expat lifestyle......

Thankfully there are many other things that you can make your point with, all these points you mentioned are good reasons to try the expat lifestyle for a while

 

[climbhappy]

Jesus, sounds like a *************************g nightmare. I understand the money is great but don't you guys miss living in the states, BBQs with the family?, drinking beer on sundays watching football?, holidays, American culture etc...having the protection of the union "just in case". I know I'm oversimplifying it but there isn't enough money in the world for me to live the expat lifestyle......[/QUOTE

the middle east is one thing but I work and live in south china, in shenzhen..
it is quite nice, and we have all those things and more...no union but tax free money higher than senior us legacy captain..

asian girls are young , sweet, obedient and good...real good...once you've had a sweet spring roll, you'll never eat a big fat bologna sub again.

a 20 year career at a legacy is 8 years in china.....hey, i get 12 years of life added to my retirement.

 

[climbhappy]

How about an older captain with a double breasted jacket and red triangle on his hat making out with his young Japanese honey publicly in the lobby of the Osaka Hilton a few weeks ago. I have never seen a lobby full of appalled Japanese glaring at one time....now I have. Now that's a class act.

that is their problem not his..he's comfortable in his skin and he doesn't live his life seeking the approval of others....so don't judge him....you don't know about his life...and since when do you have to lik the muff of a chick the same age as you...is it a new law?....fat a$$ american women are so passe.

 

[fareview]

No one arguing with his choice of women....however one of the things I do like about being an expat pilot is the high professional brand representation that is expected in uniform.

Never critique those who seek to honor the profession...Overt PDA in uniform is a no no.

Just go to the immigration line in any Asian hub and compare the foreign & US crews.

No comparison...happy to be with my crew ...always... As the United skipper famously said to the EK capt..."one of yours for all of mine"

fv

 

[SAABaroowski]

Jesus, sounds like a *************************g nightmare. I understand the money is great but don't you guys miss living in the states, BBQs with the family?, drinking beer on sundays watching football?, holidays, American culture etc...having the protection of the union "just in case". I know I'm oversimplifying it but there isn't enough money in the world for me to live the expat lifestyle......[/QUOTE

the middle east is one thing but I work and live in south china, in shenzhen..
it is quite nice, and we have all those things and more...no union but tax free money higher than senior us legacy captain..

asian girls are young , sweet, obedient and good...real good...once you've had a sweet spring roll, you'll never eat a big fat bologna sub again.

a 20 year career at a legacy is 8 years in china.....hey, i get 12 years of life added to my retirement.

Thanks for the Insight I was more specifically talking about the Middle East, from what a few friends flying in China tell me, I think I "could" do that, just can't ever see doing it in the middle east

 

[climbhappy]

that's cool...just having fun with a good topic...funny thing is this ain't for everybody...i love it...absolutely..but i don't know about the middle east....don't think i could do that either...India became like living in a jail cel...your hotel room...and working my butt off...no life at all.....in south china with hong kong next door, plenty of western food, many great italian rest and tex mex, etc......it's a good gig... all the best to you

 

[johnsonrod]

What's the latest on hiring at Etihad? You can't mention the name on Pprune due to lawsuits (yeah, not a good sign).

Can anyone recommend Etihad? I have a good buddy who got furloughed from World and he is considering the ME but got no reply from EK.

 

[fareview]

Keep checking their website. The MEast usually goes in this order of preference:

EK, EY then QR.

FZ is a decent option...beggars can't be choosers. They are all doable for the right minded person.

EK/Dubai still a good gig and life is good. Not naive to the fact that it can all change with one fook up...it is what it is.

fv

 

[Freight Dog]

Why not Middle East? Personally, I don't want to deal with China... At least everyone here speaks English, I have all the major brands and chains here from The Cheesecake Factory to Baja Fresh. UAE ain't Saudi...

 

[HA25]

Why not Middle East? Personally, I don't want to deal with China... At least everyone here speaks English, I have all the major brands and chains here from The Cheesecake Factory to Baja Fresh. UAE ain't Saudi...

Food and quality of living is WAY WAY better in the Middle East than China, I fully agree..

Even the local food is way better.... Let me see here, Kababs, Shwarma, and Falafel vs chicken feet and pork lung soup???

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Hum? I love Chinese food, but then again I love middle Easter food as well, thinking about it, I love food from all over the world.......!

It is not one size fits all gentlemen, I know people that love the ME and others that can't get the hell out quick enough! The same with China, Japan, Singapore, Panama, Chile and so forth!

We spend too much time comparing and recommending one thing or another, that is a flawed approach, the differences between all these places is what makes it interesting!

 

[HA25]

Hum? I love Chinese food,...

we're not talking Panda Express here! This is the real deal... all parts game.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

we're not talking Panda Express here! This is the real deal... all parts game.

I won't take the insult personally! You won't catch me dead in any fast food place!

 

[HA25]

I won't take the insult personally! You won't catch me dead in any fast food place!

the irony is I'd 10 times rather eat Panda Express than the authentic stuff in China... lol

 

[Dumb Pilot]

the irony is I'd 10 times rather eat Panda Express than the authentic stuff in China... lol

You my dear sir, have some serious issues!

 

[HA25]

You my dear sir, have some serious issues!

I do indeed.... innards, tails, feet, beeks, necks, and other exotics are off my diet at the moment.

 

[Freight Dog]

Uhhh.... roast dog? Pass... Chocolate-covered roach? No way... Sheep penis? WTF?!?!

These are literally the signs I saw in Beijing.... Hell no!

 

[Dumb Pilot]

I don't eat at any of those places anymore that I eat at Panda Express. But the places I do frequent, I've had fantastic culinary experiences. There are places to eat and there are places to dine!

 

[HA25]

Uhhh.... roast dog? Pass... Chocolate-covered roach? No way... Sheep penis? WTF?!?!

These are literally the signs I saw in Beijing.... Hell no!

When I used to fly into PVG with Evergreen and sometimes spend a week there, I'd literally lose 3-4 pounds because I couldn't find anything to eat... or I'd just eat vegetables and fruits.. I hear you. I even tried to hit the more upscale spots and wasn't able to tell what I was looking at on the menu and when you asked "is this white meat chicken" you got a blank stare...

I'm sorta dreading HAL starting service to BCIA even though I know the company really needs/wants this route and it's great for our future!

I'm hoping those trips go senior!

 

[thepotato232]

Mainland China can be a bitch to live, work and eat in if you're brand new to the area and haven't been through Laowai Indoc... but really? A week in Shanghai and you couldn't find anything to eat? I'm not sure when you last visited, but these days that's preposterous.

Already dreading those PEK overnights, huh? The deer penis and dog casserole places are more like "specialty" restaurants than the Chinese equivalent of a Burger King, anyway. Any idea where your hotel's gonna be? Keywords to look out for are "Chaoyang" and "San li tun". End up anywhere near that neighborhood, and you'll be up to your eyeballs in pizza, Texas barbecue and foreign beer. Still BYO breathing mask, though.