2009 W2's

[maxblast72]

Why do people try to count their per diem in how much they earned?or their company contributions to 401K....per diem barely pays for my food and beer.

Why not specify company contribution to 401(k)? Some companies have match and some have defined contributions whether employees participate or not. More information is better when guys are analyzing or trying to figure out how their CBA stacks up to their peers CBA.

Airtran Airways, 5th year reserve/buildup CA, $15,000 company contribution to my 401(k).

 

[XTW]

I don't know why you wouldn't want to hear about somebody's per diem? At certain carriers per diem can amount to a significant portion of earnings. Sure it is supposed to cover expenses but if you are getting continuous per diem or a high hourly rate it becomes a good chunk of change. What people want to know is what your bottom line amounts to; how much money ends up in your bank account. Who cares how it is divvied up?

Airline management and negotiators love this line of thinking when it comes time to negotiate contracts.


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[Green]

Airline management and negotiators love this line of thinking when it comes time to negotiate contracts.


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What are you talking about? Most CEO's have salaries in the 300k-800k range yet their total compensation could be 10+million. I'm not saying that you should count on per diem to pay your bills. But to ignore things like car allowances, schooling allowances, per diem, end of service bonuses, etc does not give you a clear indication of your take home pay. For instance housing allowances at my company are over 40,000USD/year. I spend about 20,000 of that. That leaves a significant amount of money left over that is not reflected in my "basic pay." Are you implying that I'm somehow de-valuing our profession or appeasing management by including per diem and other non-straight pay contributions in compensation discussions? My first year probationary pay is 160,000. I don't know if I would roll my eyes over that

 

[MILPILOT17]

I don't know why you wouldn't want to hear about somebody's per diem? At certain carriers per diem can amount to a significant portion of earnings. Sure it is supposed to cover expenses but if you are getting continuous per diem or a high hourly rate it becomes a good chunk of change. What people want to know is what your bottom line amounts to; how much money ends up in your bank account. Who cares how it is divvied up?



First year A320 FO in the Middle East -- total compensation 160,000USD
-Responsible for your own retirement
-schedules are hard
-cost of living is moderate to expensive
-42 days vacation
-good medical
-All in all quite a good gig. If you've ever thought about living abroad I would recommend going overseas.

Can you live "abroad" without going overseas? I guess it depends on where you live to begin with?

 

[nimtz]

$73.5K Gross and I will NEVER include per diem for this mostly 3rd year CAL 737 FO. Even more thrilling considering I flew almost 900 hours as awarded by PBS. Can not wait to eradicate the abortion that is Contract '02...

 

[XTW]

Are you implying that I'm somehow de-valuing our profession or appeasing management by including per diem and other non-straight pay contributions in compensation discussions? My first year probationary pay is 160,000. I don't know if I would roll my eyes over that

Yes I am.

And the eye roll was not in reference to your probationary pay. It sounds about right for an overseas operation, as long as that is the straight salary number without the add-ons such as per diem and such.


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[Furloughed80]

Can not wait to eradicate the abortion that is Contract '02...

Amen to that!

 

[Whine Lover]

"I will NEVER include per diem..."

Why?

I am curious to hear this ( old, and flawed ) reasoning....One more time.


YKMKR

 

[Flyby1206]

6 yr Eagle FO
$40820.69 taxable income
$46273.23 (including per diem)
785hrs flight time

Notice I included every penny, because I damn sure need every penny of it!

 

[WateryGrave]

B6 2nd to 3rd year A320 FO
91K + perdiem, 960 hrs block... I need a nap.

 

[Whine Lover]

" 960 hrs block"

My God Man...That's hideous.

 

[Huskers1]

AAY 5 yr CPT $116,000. No scope, retirement/work rules/insurance...all suck! For the love of God!!!
On the bright side, 2nd year engineering student.

 

[tyuwerty]

My first year probationary pay is 160,000. I don't know if I would roll my eyes over that

Just out of interest, I work in the ME and 160k sounds pretty high for an A320 FO. What exactly are you including in it?

Basic Salary + Per Diem + Housing + School + Travel + Transport?

Anything else? Annual bonus, Contract completion bonus, Insurance?

Actual Take Home Salary (CASH$$$), excluding everything other than per diem, for an A320 Capt usually runs around $9-12k a month in the ME.

I don't think you can include home travel and schooling unless you pocket the cash. These are expenses that you normally wouldn't incur if you worked at home.

 

[Varig]

4th 777 F/O down south, 80k in 2009.
175k+ from internet porn in 2009.

 

[GuppyWN]

4th 777 F/O down south, 80k in 2009.
175k+ from internet porn in 2009.

Now say "thank you!"

Gup