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2000 hour RJ170 captain? for real?

ACT700

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NTSB Identification: NYC06LA002
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of Shuttle America (D.B.A. United Express)
Accident occurred Monday, October 03, 2005 in Dulles, VA
Aircraft: Embraer 170, registration: N650RW
Injuries: 1 Serious, 44 Uninjured.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed....
The scheduled passenger flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 121.
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According to the director of safety for the operator, company management did not immediately know the exact details of the event, and the airplane was placed back into service. Consequently, cockpit voice recorder data for the accident flight was lost.
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The captain held an airline transport pilot certificate with a rating for airplane multi-engine land. His most recent Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) first class medical certificate was issued April 14, 2005. The captain reported 2,000 total hours of flight experience, 173 hours of which were in make and model.
The first officer held a commercial pilot certificate with ratings for airplane multi-engine land. His most recent FAA first class medical certificate was issued on October 6, 2004. The first officer reported 5,300 total hours of flight experience, 453 hours of which were in make and model.



BOY, I HOPE THAT'S A MISPRINT!!!
 

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I dunna if its true or not...but in an accident report that involved a friend of mine, the times they wrote in for him weren't even close, and they didn't have several other things correct, either.
 

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Ok, am I missing something? Why does it have to be wrong? Some of these regionals are upgrading as soon as their people hit 1500 hours and can get an ATP. Places like Colgan are street hiring because their guys don't even have 1500 hours to become a CA. Sounds like this Captain is OVER qualified by today's standards!
 

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2000 Hours - So what?

dhc8fo said:
Ok, am I missing something? Why does it have to be wrong? Some of these regionals are upgrading as soon as their people hit 1500 hours and can get an ATP. Places like Colgan are street hiring because their guys don't even have 1500 hours to become a CA. Sounds like this Captain is OVER qualified by today's standards!
How do you know that 1500 of his 2000 hours weren't in an F-15 or a C-141?
 
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Well, if it was in a C-141 THEN it's REAL value is @ 10,000 hours!

Darn skippy. ;)
 

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I wondered what injured the FA, the 3,500 climb? Did she/he fall down and break a leg? At 3,000 feet should'nt the FA be strapped in and prepared for landing?
 

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sandman2122 said:
Well, if it was in a C-141 THEN it's REAL value is @ 10,000 hours!

Darn skippy. ;)
How do you figure?
 

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The first officer held a commercial pilot certificate with ratings for airplane multi-engine land. His most recent FAA first class medical certificate was issued on October 6, 2004. The first officer reported 5,300 total hours of flight experience, 453 hours of which were in make and model.
lol they just got the Pilot flying and the pilot not flying thing mixed up. I'm not sure if this qualifies as SJS. Maybe a workers comp scam?
 

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There are often FO's who have more time then the CAs. Some senior FOs either don't want the hassle, can't get a first class medical, or they love their cushy schedule too much to upgrade. It doesn't have to be a mix up. It happens all the time. The CA probably did have 2000 hours and the FO probably did have 5300 hours. So I ask again, what is the big deal??
 

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maybe they go off the hours reported in the last 8710 you filed or medical application
 
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maybe they go off the hours reported in the last 8710 you filed or medical application
They do, and it states that in the report. For a 121 captain it can be no more than 6 months old..
 

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macfly said:
I wondered what injured the FA, the 3,500 climb? Did she/he fall down and break a leg? At 3,000 feet should'nt the FA be strapped in and prepared for landing?
No she was most likey doing her final cabin garbage pass. Most FA's don't stap in until they get the double CHIME from the flight deck.
 
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