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mynameisjim said:
So what does a Station Manager manage?

The station.

We (pilots) serve cities.

Been doing this for about 20 years now and have never heard a city referred to a "station". The actual work place at the airport, yes. A rumor of a base, no. Being "stationed" is a military term because they live in "bases". Sort of.
 
Glad to hear they quit before they were worked to death. I new something had happen though to explain my 2 number jump in seniority. Hope I can just hang on. Man it is tough.
 
Tejas I think you are predicting MHT as the new base. All the gates are full every night and there are jets on the ramp.
 
SWA/FO said:
Some would call that CRAZY. Some would call that BRILLIANT. Some folks just can't look down the road, far.

What I mean by that is: there was a guy that was here at Southwest, and he had no real airport near him.. So he had to drive to MCO, something like a 6 hour drive to sit on reserve. He went crazy in a short period of time and quit. I always thought (1) this guy could not talk Momma into moving from BFE or (2) this dude never thought he would get off reserve.

I personally consider this "short sighted" - such is the same when folks claim we fly 8 legs a day... times are changing. The Southwest Airlines one grew up with, will be a completely "different animal" (to steal a line) in the future. Can you say "HEAVY" baby!!!! (I know you can CaptMark).

:pimp: the SWA/FO

Speaking of short sighted. Maybe the guy had other opportunities that were a better fit for him than being a Southwest pilot. That guy today could very well be quite happy with no regrets at all. I know how difficult that must be for you to understand given all the time you spend cheerleading and thinking of nothing else. If anyone is short sighted, it is you.
 
SWA/FO said:
" Can you say "HEAVY" baby!!!! (I know you can CaptMark).:pimp: the SWA/FO

i only say it when i am not flying and in the app/dep enviornment...one thing about taxiing a heavy is that you can see all the dirt on top of the swa airplanes...such a pretty orange(like our purple)...that would be interesting if u guys got big jets but herb had a plan and u might not want to mess with it...one aircraft type has worked pretty well over the years...i did take this photo the other day at JFK...it may be closer than u think...

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00000127
 
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CaptainMark said:
..one thing about taxiing a heavy is that you can see all the dirt on top of the swa airplanes...

How are you able to see all that in the middle of the night?:confused: :laugh:
 
I know how difficult that must be for you to understand given all the time you spend cheerleading and thinking of nothing else.

We have a winner!!!
 
0562 MEM-LAX xxxxx06...1600 1835 435 LAX 6025
0308 LAX-MEM xxxxx06...0700 1219 319

a recent trip...daytime...easy to see all that ..60hrs worth
 
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Hey Capt.Mark they don't make us maintain 3000' until 6 DME off of OAK in OAK anymore...is that cus' you heavy guys told OAK to stop? Can't get that beast down?
 
TAZ MAN said:
A little new to this game eh kernal?

They are cities. Stations are something you had in the army.

Just trying to help.

Of course you are....but hey, I'll take all the help I can get....from someone who knows what he/she is talking about.

I've never been in the Army, sorry. And in the USAF, it was known that I would never be a kernal, no matter how desperate they got.

However, in my 24+ year airline career, I have had numerous discussions with Station Managers, and I have also had to call Base Managers, to have them send my favorite F/A a message.

For your edification, in the Army, they are referred to as "Posts" or "Fort". As in "Fort" Sam Houston, or "Fort" Knox, Ky. Or, "what is your post?" Meaning, where should you be?

You down wit dat?

Tejas
 
Southwest Wants To Triple Number Of DIA Flights

FAA Must First Approve Airline's Expansion Plans


POSTED: 3:40 pm MDT April 25, 2006
UPDATED: 4:13 pm MDT April 25, 2006

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DENVER -- Discount-carrier Southwest Airlines may soon triple its number of flights out of Denver International Airport and that could mean lower-priced flights from other carriers as well.
However, Southwest still needs government approval to expand operations in Denver. They want to add cities like Houston, Orlando, Fla., Nashville, Tenn., and Oakland, Calif., to their daily schedule.
If it all goes through, flight prices to those cities from other airlines should drop, analysts said. The competition has helped lower prices significantly since Southwest began service in January. During the first week of April, for instance, fares at DIA were down 18 percent from a year earlier, even as ticket prices nationally were on the upswing.
Southwest currently has 20 nonstop departures from Denver but if the Federal Aviation Administration approves it, there could be as many as 60 daily nonstop departures from Denver. Southwest has said all along that it sees significant potential in Denver, and industry experts have been expecting Southwest to expand in the city sooner rather than later

Its just a click and paste BABY!!! Nothing else. Looks like those turkeys made the wrong decision (if based on commute).
 
Its just a click and paste BABY!!! Nothing else.

Still, he said, Southwest faces a tough battle in Denver. Both United and Frontier, the city's largest carriers, are fighting aggressively for passengers and are well-known in Denver. Boyd also argues that, price being equal, those two carriers offer a better product than Southwest.

"The last time I checked, Southwest was not included on the tablets Moses brought down from Mount Sinai," Boyd said. "So there's no guarantee they will be successful."
 
"The last time I checked, Southwest was not included on the tablets Moses brought down from Mount Sinai," Boyd said. "So there's no guarantee they will be successful."

I have read it...but this is what I'm hearing - "There is no way Southwest will fail in Denver."
 
sluggo said:
Boyd also argues that, price being equal, those two carriers offer a better product than Southwest.

And the last seed can't win the Super Bowl.
 
I would guess there are maybe 5000 pilots at southwest. 2/5000X100=.04%. There are currently 46 now 47 posts. Draw some conclusions before going to bed.
 
If Southwest gets heavies, as the other guys have pointed out, it would hurt much of the cost-saving associated with a common fleet. Training, maintenance, spares, all screw through the roof. I'd be shocked if SWA pursued a heavy or two.

Given that, there is much profitability to be pursued via real long haul to Europe, SA, and Asia. At some point, the CONUS will be saturated, if it's not already, and SWA can look only to international ops for continued expansion of its route structure.
 

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