#12 on top 15 highest paying Careers

[SplitBar]

Not 100k+ loans. That's a recent phenomenon. And true I have no sympathy for those people who wrote a check and 4 years later were in an RJ with 0 experience. Not good for the industry IMO.

Easily 100K + My Niece is going to Carleton next year and it's 50K a year. U of Michigan is about the same. I think you are a little out of touch with how much tuition is at good colleges. Yeah there are cheaper colleges but most achievers who bust butt to get straight A's and desire success don't go to UND for $7K a year, they go to U of Mich or Northwestern, Carleton, etc etc.

 

[mushroom]

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[waveflyer]

Hey, I got into this industry bc an average gig pays decent. But have we got to the point where we're comparing "airline pilot" with ALL the population? Most of those that can do our job (not many), wouldn't once they taste life on the road- many of us wouldn't do it over, we're just invested. If this job paid average, I wouldn't do it. And I LOVE flying.
But the difference articles like that don't disclose is that it's only good for those with seniority- and seniority begins all over everytime you change companies no matter the reason- outsourcing skews that. Built up. Shrunk. Built up another shrunk. So does competition. Where else does your experience count for nothing when you change companies?
We compete in an industry, where in the 2000's the industry grew and did better, but pilots did not. How many professions does this happen in. The free hand is compromised by seniority and the RLA.
Comparing single year w-2's doesn't tell the story

The good paying jobs are the epitome of the saying "it's a good job, IF you can get it." nature of the beast.

 

[Andy]

Let's see ... it was 12 yrs ago this month that I was hired at UAL. Let's say that I made an average of $70K/yr during the 4 years that I wasn't on furlough. The math is: $70K x 4 = $280K divided by 12 = $23.3K/yr average salary.

 

[jonjuan]

Let's see ... it was 12 yrs ago this month that I was hired at UAL. Let's say that I made an average of $70K/yr during the 4 years that I wasn't on furlough. The math is: $70K x 4 = $280K divided by 12 = $23.3K/yr average salary.

So you're saying that you haven't been able to find a single job since? Many went to SWA, netjets, a Corp flight dept or did something else, many making much more than 70k/year. People lose jobs all the time and find another job.

 

[Ty Webb]

Feel free to complain about how crappy our industry is. Just know that in comparison to the rest of the US, we're still doing pretty damn good.

HAL

Yay! Long live mediocrity and low expectations! :erm:

Our frame of reference shouldn't be what people in other industries make, it should be about what airline pilots make.

When I was a college freshman, a United 767 Capt made $14K a month. A 727 CA made $12K a month. That was after deregulation, btw.

Today, they pay about the same rate, but it's worth less than half, thanks to inflation. That's what we should be looking at, not what a nurse or a truck driver makes.

 

[Andy]

So you're saying that you haven't been able to find a single job since? Many went to SWA, netjets, a Corp flight dept or did something else, many making much more than 70k/year. People lose jobs all the time and find another job.

I never said that. However, after I retired from the AF Reserve in Sep 2010, I sent out >100 applications with zero job offers. All the way down to entry level positions in banking.
I suppose that I could have taken a job at the Starbucks down the street.

Is there an airline that hires pilots with no flight time in 4 years? Mesa? GoJets? Ameriflight? What do they pay?

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Is there an airline that hires pilots with no flight time in 4 years? Mesa? GoJets? Ameriflight? What do they pay?

Are you being sarcastic or are you really out in the market for any aviation job????

 

[kf4amu]

Easily 100K + My Niece is going to Carleton next year and it's 50K a year. U of Michigan is about the same. I think you are a little out of touch with how much tuition is at good colleges. Yeah there are cheaper colleges but most achievers who bust butt to get straight A's and desire success don't go to UND for $7K a year, they go to U of Mich or Northwestern, Carleton, etc etc.

I think you just supported my statement that it's a recent phenomenon. I was talking about 10-20 years ago, hearing anyone except lawyers and doctors with student loans above 100k was rare.

 

[FR8mastr]

Yay! Long live mediocrity and low expectations! :erm:

Our frame of reference shouldn't be what people in other industries make, it should be about what airline pilots make.

When I was a college freshman, a United 767 Capt made $14K a month. A 727 CA made $12K a month. That was after deregulation, btw.

Today, they pay about the same rate, but it's worth less than half, thanks to inflation. That's what we should be looking at, not what a nurse or a truck driver makes.

great point

 

[Andy]

Are you being sarcastic or are you really out in the market for any aviation job????

That was a response to JonJuan - he indicated that I should have had no problem finding another job without any problem. He must not remember 2002 and 2009.

 

[waveflyer]

I think you just supported my statement that it's a recent phenomenon. I was talking about 10-20 years ago, hearing anyone except lawyers and doctors with student loans above 100k was rare.

Bc we don't support higher education like our grandparents did-

We traded being taxed for cheaper, easy loans- not the same thing and once again, the next generation will pay for boomers

 

[waveflyer]

Yay! Long live mediocrity and low expectations! :erm:

Our frame of reference shouldn't be what people in other industries make, it should be about what airline pilots make.

When I was a college freshman, a United 767 Capt made $14K a month. A 727 CA made $12K a month. That was after deregulation, btw.

Today, they pay about the same rate, but it's worth less than half, thanks to inflation. That's what we should be looking at, not what a nurse or a truck driver makes.

Welcome to pre-acquisition- when I agreed with about everything Ty wrote-
Glad he's on our side now.
(not tongue in cheek or kidding)

 

[pilotyip]

Minus the student loan payment....and you are back down to being paid crap.

college degree not required for RJ CA, only the ability to fly and command a flight deck

 

[pilotyip]

I never said that. However, after I retired from the AF Reserve in Sep 2010, I sent out >100 applications with zero job offers. All the way down to entry level positions in banking.
I suppose that I could have taken a job at the Starbucks down the street.

Is there an airline that hires pilots with no flight time in 4 years? Mesa? GoJets? Ameriflight? What do they pay?

JUS does, because we know you can fly, starts a around 40K/yr