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11/14/10. Refused security = $10,000 fine

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The terrorist win a little more each and every day.

JN is completely in over her head.

I don't think she's in over her head (just like 0) - she's perfectly content in corralling the law abiding citizens into bowing and cringing to the government.

In (somewhat) fairness, it is difficult to measure how many people would have attempted to committ an act of terrorism if it weren't for the security measures. Now with that said, how far do does the government go with this? I speculate someday they'll require pax to scan their ID's along with their ticket, then go through the x-ray. That way they have the body image, name, DOB, address, and SSN (since you have to provide that to get a DL) - I know, I know they don't save the pix. Plus if you use a credit card to purchase there is another cross check. The silver lining this can be used for 0'Care to show to your physician in case you need it! Problem with big commerce and big government you don't know how, and what, they use all this info/intel for. They want to know everything about you but don't want you to know what they know or how they use it. I don't have enough criminal mind to figure it out.
 
I don't know all the details,...but who's to say you can't just refuse the air transportation route, do a 180, and rent a car to South Dakota??? What am I missing here???



I think it was the 9th circuit appeals court that decided this is not an option. It would allow terrorists to test out weakspots and continue to do so until they get through. So if you discontinue the security screening you are subject to that civil lawsuit and 10k fine.
 
I think it was the 9th circuit appeals court that decided this is not an option. It would allow terrorists to test out weakspots and continue to do so until they get through. So if you discontinue the security screening you are subject to that civil lawsuit and 10k fine.

I understand the intent here.. so the lession here, is that passengers and flight crews now know what to expect at the airports... before they buy tickets.. In July, I had to get patted down as usual, pre-touch of the junk was still in effect, but my nice suit jacket was entirly wrinkle up as TSA bunched it up in a tote ben that ended up getting crap piled on top of it while I gropped.. in the open as well.. it just sucks..

I say drive,take a train, or bus... or a "staycation" as they are advertising down here in Florida... Screw it it's not worth the effort unless the drive is more than 18 hours. Next time I have a west coast trip I'll go in my pajamas and slippers and then get dressed on the other side of security!!!! and what ever you do dont take Cialis within 24 hours, unless you want to impress the screener! :)

The next step is bend over and cough!!"(
 
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The next step is bend over and cough!!

Hopefully they'll at least give us the courtesy of a reach-around...
 

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