06/23/09...Commuting just got impossible

[flap operator]

We have very little to complain about at XJ. In general, our benefits actually got better. They're available to more people, they're cheaper, first and biz are free if available, we don't have to travel with our buddies and we finally have online access to nonrev travel. The only negative I see is that we now board behind mainline parents. Other than that, our priority hasn't changed. We've boarded behind mainline and their retirees for a long, long time. So... I find it hard to believe that tons of people at XJ are "pissed." The folks at Pinnacle have the most to complain about and rightfully so.

 

[the palm]

as an 9 year ASA guy I have to agree with this. We exist at the whim of Delta. if they decide I'm now an S4DD then so be it. I can quit or try to get hired at Delta.

You have DD's. NICE

 

[the palm]

Even better, I was denied a DAL jumpseat yesterday in favor of an AA pilot. I asked the gate agent to check, as I (CMR pilot) should've had priority.
She was polite, but clueless and really didn't care. Got the last seat using my last S2.

HAHA. You can thank j.c. for that ... and the fact that no comair guys are at the mother D. Most of my buds from ASA are there. I was hired but had to turn it down to do some top secret stuff ...

 

[staylow]

A little convoluted but I'll give it a shot.

S1= emergency non rev. Death of family member, etc. Pain to get.
S2= limited number to use every year. Basically puts you at the front of all other non revs. At ASA we get three per and can only use them on ASA planes.
S3= standard travel for Delta employees on their planes just as it should be for your own planes.
S3C for use on mainline planes. S3CC is generally on other DCI planes.
S4 is buddy pass level.

A little clarification for Comair, Mesaba, Compass Pilots...
S1 only on Comair, Mesaba, Comapss flights - zero on Delta
S2 only on Comair, Mesaba, Comapss flights - zero on Delta
S3 only on Comair, Mesaba, Compass flights - zero on Delta - side note all Dela employees have S3 priority on Comair, Mesaba, Compass which means unlike ASA where Delta employees have S3C priority - now they can bump you off your own planes
S3C the highest priority Comair, Mesaba, Compass have on Delta flights

Oh yeah...Commuter Clause works wonders...

 

[WMUSIGPI]

According to the info we got at Mesaba we CAN travel S1A on an as needed basis (whatever that means I have no idea)

 

[GogglesPisano]

When Delta puts those B.S. travel "benefits" on ASA, I'm denying EVERY Delta jumpseater.

Sure you will

 

[captainv]

HAHA. You can thank j.c. for that ... and the fact that no comair guys are at the mother D. Most of my buds from ASA are there. I was hired but had to turn it down to do some top secret stuff ...

if you're going to flame bait, you'll need to try harder.

 

[PuffDriver]

When Delta puts those B.S. travel "benefits" on ASA, I'm denying EVERY Delta jumpseater.

You're such a tough guy!! The crowd cheers and his mother cries.

 

[Brasilia Pup]

Sure you will

I'm not a commuter, I don't need Delta's jumpseats. Besides, I drive the -200, where we're weight restricted 99% of the time anyways.

 

[N813CA]

9e and no travel

What do you mean 9e doesn't get any nonrev travel? Does that mean Skywest and ASA do not as well?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

When Delta puts those B.S. travel "benefits" on ASA, I'm denying EVERY Delta jumpseater.

That's for the captain to decide, not some incompetent low time new hire f/o!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

What do you mean 9e doesn't get any nonrev travel? Does that mean Skywest and ASA do not as well?

He means the Comair pilots' incessant b!tching over their still very legit travel bennies looks very petty compared to the way Pinnacle just took it up the pooper with their "benefits."

Do a little research and you'll be quite surprised.

 

[higherflyer]

Even better, I was denied a DAL jumpseat yesterday in favor of an AA pilot. I asked the gate agent to check, as I (CMR pilot) should've had priority.
She was polite, but clueless and really didn't care. Got the last seat using my last S2.

Report that back through your jumpseat committee. You have priority over AA and the gate agent should have processed you as such. Help yourself and everyone else by helping to get the agent 'schooled' in the priority and procedures. We have to protect our jumpseat and while you may have burned the S2 to get on, you shouldn't have had to waste it due to some uneducated and/or uncaring gate agent not doing his/her job.

 

[DX Rick]

HAHA. You can thank j.c. for that ... and the fact that no comair guys are at the mother D. Most of my buds from ASA are there. I was hired but had to turn it down to do some top secret stuff ...

Your facts are wrong, I know about 6 Comair guys who have gone to Delta.

 

[captainv]

Report that back through your jumpseat committee. You have priority over AA and the gate agent should have processed you as such. Help yourself and everyone else by helping to get the agent 'schooled' in the priority and procedures. We have to protect our jumpseat and while you may have burned the S2 to get on, you shouldn't have had to waste it due to some uneducated and/or uncaring gate agent not doing his/her job.

I was on the phone with my ALPA rep before I got on the plane. And I politely "educated" the gate agent after I got my seat. I wouldn't have been so nice if I'd needed the flight to make my report time...

 

[Monster Buck]

Mainline traveling on Mesaba On Mesaba operated flights, active mainline, Comair and Compass pass riders will board at the same priority as active Mesaba pass riders, and ahead of other Connection Carrier pass riders (including ASA, Chautauqua, Freedom, Pinnacle, Shuttle America, SkyWest).

Mainline traveling on Compass On Compass operated flights, active mainline, Comair and Mesaba pass riders will board at the same priority as active Compass pass riders, and ahead of other Connection Carrier pass riders (including ASA, Chautauqua, Freedom, Pinnacle, Shuttle America, SkyWest).

Mainline traveling on Comair flights On Comair operated flights, active mainline, Compass and Mesaba pass riders will board at the same priority as active Comair pass riders, and ahead of other Connection Carrier pass riders (including ASA, Chautauqua, Freedom, Pinnacle, Shuttle America, SkyWest).



So this means that all three Wholly Owned carriers travel on each other as S2/S3 DOH.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

I'm not a commuter, I don't need Delta's jumpseats. Besides, I drive the -200, where we're weight restricted 99% of the time anyways.

Serving drinks/snacks in the back is not driving. Much as you probably like to tell all the chicks in high school.
I think we found crj567's love interest!

 

[Brasilia Pup]

That's for the captain to decide, not some incompetent low time new hire f/o!

Looks like I have you by the b*lls...I have control of the jumpseat. At least I'm trying to do something about mainline thinking they are better than the regional pilot. Those who just roll over and take it, deserve what they get.

 

[nwaredtail]

Looks like I have you by the b*lls...I have control of the jumpseat. At least I'm trying to do something about mainline thinking they are better than the regional pilot. Those who just roll over and take it, deserve what they get.

I'm sorry your career has ended up the way it has. I guess I would be pissed off to if I had to come to work and the highlight was hoping to have a mainline jumpseater to deny off my little CRJ jumpseat.

 

[ASA_DFW]

Everybody must remember the MANAGEMENT changed the non-rev policy at Delta, not the pilots.

I worked at ASA for 8 years and then moved on. Don't be mad at the Delta pilots for something that they have no control over.