Airtran Jumpseat/Non-rev

[Capn Mike]

When commuing yesterday out of ATL I was told by the agent that I was not the first jumpseater and that I would be charged $30.80 for the flight. I said okay and while she was processing the charge I asked what airline the other jumpseater was from. She stated "that there were several of them."

I was the third person to board and met the crew. From where I was seated, I noticed that no other people went into the flightdeck to meet the crew. During the flight I asked the lead F/A if there were any other jumpseaters onboard. She stated none that she was aware of.

I understand the policy of charging after the first jumpseat has been requested and I am very thankful to be able to get to and from work.

I was just surprised to see no other jumpseaters on the a/c after being told that there were several and charged for the flight.

Does any Airtran crews know how this could have happened?

Thanks,


Mike

 

[RedDogC130]

The gate agent just assumes that they will show up. In the future, I would wait until the end and then see if any showed, then pay.

 

[FlyAuburn]

Man that sucks. I also hear that they (agents) charge a tax on top of the 25 dollar fee. My friends at the Tranny say that they are not suppose to charge that tax. who knows? A friend paid 38 dollars not long ago. I wonder why your fee was different? Nothing against FL, but I can't wait until they get CASS!

 

[bestpilot]

Man that sucks. I also hear that they (agents) charge a tax on top of the 25 dollar fee. My friends at the Tranny say that they are not suppose to charge that tax. who knows? A friend paid 38 dollars not long ago. I wonder why your fee was different? Nothing against FL, but I can't wait until they get CASS!

DUDE, waht else could I be, all apologies, my brother. Yeah, we wants da CASS too, bro ,but it aint commin yet cause we gots all sorts o dat negotiatin to do. It's still freaking great dat we can get dem pilots home, but it ain't ALLLL GOOOOOOD, and until it is, then like I'm like sorry dude.

 

[newnan]

the next time this happens let the captain know. They charged a jumpseater of mine (the agent said there was another jumpseater listed?? I didn't know off line jumpseaters could list?) and then was to lazy or trying to get the aircraft out on time and wouldn't refund him his money. Since the jumpseater let me know about it, when we got to MKE I got him in touch with a supervisor that was able to reverse the charges. Maybe if we start calling the agents on this when they screw up that will help in getting rid of this assinine policy.

 

[Ty Webb]

Hey, Cap'n Mike:

Did you stop up front and introduce yourself to the Flight Crew? Because if you didn't, how do you expect them to know you were charged in the first place? Or, if you did, if you had let him know at the end of the flight, maybe he could've done something about it.



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[cobalt]

Hey, Cap'n Mike:

Did you stop up front and introduce yourself to the Flight Crew? Because if you didn't, how do you expect them to know you were charged in the first place? Or, if you did, if you had let him know at the end of the flight, maybe he could've done something about it.

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did you read his post? cause when I read it, it seems pretty clear he did:

I was the third person to board and met the crew. From where I was seated, I noticed that no other people went into the flightdeck to meet the crew.

 

[Clyde Frog]

Let that be a lesson to you, stay away from AirTran. I do.

 

[Ty Webb]

did you read his post? cause when I read it, it seems pretty clear he did:

Did you read my post? Because when I read it, it seems pretty clear there was a caveat:

Or, if you did, if you had let him know at the end of the flight, maybe he could've done something about it.

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Since you seem inclined to split hairs, "Met the Crew" doesn't necessarily mean he met the Captain. It could have been the Lead F/A and the F/O, for all you know.

 

[seahorse]

Hey, Cap'n Mike:
... maybe he could've done something about it.

What you could do there critter is get together with your other pilots and get rid of that policy of ripping off other pilots for a ride. That's what you could do about it.

 

[Phaedrus]

seahorse! Great idea! I don't believe that has been considered up to this point. You, sir, are genius personified. Hey fellas, convene the pilot group and let's get rid of our silly policy. How could we have overlooked this?
Crescent wrench on an OTIS.

 

[newnan]

Actually, I don't think Critter ever charged for the jumpseat. Secondly, I'd like to know what company you work for. It must be great to be able to just get together with your other pilots and get rid of a policy management puts in place that you disagree with. Are they hiring? Where can we send resume's? We don't like this policy anymore than anyone else and we'd like to see it changed. Until then, take frog's advice and stay away. Maybe if management started losing revenue from the jumpseat it wouldn't be worth the bookkeeping and they'd drop it! By the way, you suggested it and I'm open for suggestions. How would you suggest that we and our other pilots get together and change this policy.

 

[newnan]

to late, Phad beat me to it

 

[crosscut]

Let that be a lesson to you, stay away from AirTran. I do.

You just can't help it, can you, Einstein? I figured your obsessiveness with Airtran, your interest in Midwest Express, and, of course, your membership recency to jump the gun on getting your one-month old screen name (Einstein) banned gave it away (& all in 4 posts) Oh well, knock yourself out.

Hey, while I have your attention, what's up with Midwest painting 4 stripes on the left eng nacelle & 3 on the right nacelle (717)? Seriously..., problems with identifying on which side of the airplane the captain sits? Really, what's the reasoning there? At least, ya'll are original. Fly safe.

 

[bestpilot]

What you could do there critter is get together with your other pilots and get rid of that policy of ripping off other pilots for a ride. That's what you could do about it.

DUDE!

I like try to be like cool abouts it, and like tell da peeps we feels bad, but, dude, you jus wont let it go. If me and da Ty Guy would be runnin da Tranny, then all yooos pilots be travelin for free like all da time. But, dude, if me and ole Ty Guy be runnin da Tranny, we be out a da bizznizz by now.

Dude, you bringin up da freaking policy again is like, like, like dat movie I like keep seein on dat TeeVee. This is like dat Bill Murray movie, when he like wakes up and stuff with dat gooofy song on da radio. Itt's GGRRRRROUNDHOG DAY!!!!!!


Ned? Ned Freaking Rhyerson? Dude, freaking A bubba, I'll be like buyin all dat insurance you gots! Dude, if I play my freaking cards right, maybe I can gets with ole Andie freaking McDowell. Ewwwwwww, YUK! Sea-horse, dude, you can have her, bro, cause she's like BO-heemIUM!

 

[cl65capt]

What you could do there critter is get together with your other pilots and get rid of that policy of ripping off other pilots for a ride. That's what you could do about it.

Yawn. Let me guess, you work for someone who only takes one jumpseater.

 

[j41driver]

If I am trying to jumpseat on mainline Delta and I'm not the first offline jumpseater there then the only way that I can get a ride is if I already have an ID90 in my pocket for just such a case. A round trip ID90 on the city pair I use will cost me $199.xx according to our pass bureau and it has to be purchased in advance.

Consider AirTran's policy as this: We take one offline jumpseater. If you aren't the first offline guy to show up then you have to buy the equivalent of an ID90 for $25...and you can get it when (and if) you need it...not 6 months before you actually need to use it.

I don't like our management's policy at all (my previous airline ACA/IDE had a wide open jumpseat policy and it certainly made everyone's life easier) but there's not much we can do to change it right now. Hopefully CASS and a better jumpseat policy will be in the future.

 

[DonVerita]

Hopefully CASS and a better jumpseat policy will be in the future.

We'll definately have both items in the next contract. This B.S. greed policy by management is going to get the deep-six.

If anyone has a problem with our mostly poor excuse for gate agents in ATL, just ask to speak with the Captain. 99% of them will get it straightened out.

None of this would be a problem if management would take some of that fat bonus money they give themselves every quarter and put it towards recruitment of gate agents from somewhere else other than Roy Rogers restaurants and pay them a decent wage.

 

[Ty Webb]

None of this would be a problem if management would take some of that fat bonus money they give themselves every quarter and put it towards recruitment of gate agents from somewhere else other than Roy Rogers restaurants and pay them a decent wage.

Are you sure it is Roy Rogers? I was pretty sure it's Taco Bell. I will ask at recurrent next month.

 

[mnboyev]

The jumpseat form should be changed to include 'off-line' jumpseaters with a Captain signature.... I have asked our jumpseat committee chairman to inquire and work to get it changed ..(twice in writing).. and to remove the 'cheesy' photo copy excuse that some agents currently use. All I can say... is it is in the works to better control the jumpseat form and know who is riding on a 'pass' or offline jumpseat. Hopefully the 'pass' thing will get negotiated away in the near future. CASS is being looked at ..Call our jumpseat chair and get it changed !!

The problem is the gate agents just 'list' the pass rider and issue a seat assignment. He11 we dont know if we have people in the back or not who are flight crew. Sometimes tough to tell with companies moving their pilots around .... revenue ticket riders... exec jet.. Cat... ATI... Ryan... Miami Air... etc.. etc... I hope the agents are checking their credentials...

I will call and email again today...