Interview Tommorrow

[FN FAL]

Yes it's true, I will interview tommorrow at a regional tommorrow.

Any advice this is my first interview ever for a flight job.

Thanks guys...

Show 'em you're nuts! :nuts:

 

[Superpilot92]

Congrats on MESA! ENJOY

 

[badog]

WHoooHoooshidick

MCPIKLE
Take the job and then use all the overnights to steal toilet paper/soap, shampoo, and light-bulbs from the hotels. Steal trashbags from the a/c. Take 2-3 sodas home after every trip. Take the maxi-pads from the lav and the soap if it'll unscrew. F' it, it's all about looking out for #1 in this industry.

Man that's funny as hell
You gotta b Newark based
Quit, Run, Do any thing other than this career, HA Ha ha.....
URSOOOOooooooscrewed........

 

[Yudso]

Newhires don't know any better. It's not until the company you're at starts asking for Mesa type wages and work rules, do you realize the value of an industry average contract.

 

[DashCojones]

I'm guessing Mesa through some BS program? You should be VERY proud. How else does someone have their "first interview" and get a regional job. What a crock. Don't forget to start a website, blog, etc. so we can keep up with your "career."

What's BS about it? Is it the fact that they have placed over a thousand pilots into the same regional airline with an attrition rate 3x better than hires off the street while in GS, or is it the fact that people who spent 4 years at an aviation university will have to instruct for 2 more years before they get their interviews( i had 3 embry riddle guys in my class)

You poor, poor VICTIM. Not even started GS at the hell that is MESA and you're already defending SanJuan. You'll fit right in there. BTW, better check those facts on sanjuan attrition...I think you've been duped.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

8 days off a month for $18K a year....CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!! :beer:

 

[Knob]

What flavor of Kool Aid did they serve you at that interview? Must be some good stuff!

 

[urflyingme?!]

Wow for people calling me an idiot, some of you don't make much sense...

I don't remember saying anything about my wages. I didn't say anything about San Juan, but since it was brought up, it did EXACTLY what they told me it would( I DO have a job don't I?). Now I know this might sound strange but I didn't negotiate any pay rates for any airlines, and I'm sure that San Juan College hasn't produced enough pilots to completely drown then entire aviation community with sadist pilots asking for the minimum possible compensation to the point of ruining the profession. I'm not sure how accepting a job at a regional which doesn't pay very well, but is better than some(not many) is morally wrong. And finally, if I slugged it out flying night freight and instructing would I still be a bastard for accepting the job at a regional? Will the pay suddenly increase with my secret night freight handshake? (I'm not doubting that it produces solid pilots, or that I'm willing to do that.) Are all regional pilots a disgrace to America, Lindberg Apple Pie and Baseball or is it just low time Mesa guys who haven't crossed a picket line or signed on at Freedom or PFT'd?

If you're looking for guys supporting MESA go to Mesalounge. It's really quite upsetting frankly that some people can't accept the fact that someone is excited about getting a job at the end of their college courses. But then again this is flightinfo and you guys are probably tired from a long day of complaining about your lives in person with your flightcrew and are probably sleepy.... I'm finished arguing about this anyway

 

[Superpilot92]

its not about getting a job its about the fact if people wouldnt take the jobs at mesa they would have to start paying and treating their pilots better, hence making the industry just that much better. Getting a job is a great feeling but you will see why everyone complains about mesa once the new rubs off. Taking a job at mesa is only contributing to the down fall of the regionals. When some of the other regionals try and step up and make things better in the god forsaken regional industry it always gets thrown back in their face, "well we pay you this much isnt that better than mesa"

Good Luck Boss

 

[AgDownUnder]

Wow for people calling me an idiot, some of you don't make much sense...

I don't remember saying anything about my wages. I didn't say anything about San Juan, but since it was brought up, it did EXACTLY what they told me it would( I DO have a job don't I?). Now I know this might sound strange but I didn't negotiate any pay rates for any airlines, and I'm sure that San Juan College hasn't produced enough pilots to completely drown then entire aviation community with sadist pilots asking for the minimum possible compensation to the point of ruining the profession. I'm not sure how accepting a job at a regional which doesn't pay very well, but is better than some(not many) is morally wrong. And finally, if I slugged it out flying night freight and instructing would I still be a bastard for accepting the job at a regional? Will the pay suddenly increase with my secret night freight handshake? (I'm not doubting that it produces solid pilots, or that I'm willing to do that.) Are all regional pilots a disgrace to America, Lindberg Apple Pie and Baseball or is it just low time Mesa guys who haven't crossed a picket line or signed on at Freedom or PFT'd?

If you're looking for guys supporting MESA go to Mesalounge. It's really quite upsetting frankly that some people can't accept the fact that someone is excited about getting a job at the end of their college courses. But then again this is flightinfo and you guys are probably tired from a long day of complaining about your lives in person with your flightcrew and are probably sleepy.... I'm finished arguing about this anyway

Don't sweat it, enjoy the job. It's a tough industry all around especially at the regional level. You've got some tough years ahead of you. I did the commuter thing 12 years ago (they didn't call them Regionals back then) and quit after 3 months because I couldn't afford the job, and back then the pay was better than it is now. I really haven't figured out the whole "dues paying" thing when it comes to regionals, personnally I consider it dues paying. Crap job, crap pay and crap schedules. In 5 years or so, if you haven't quit, been furloughed, had the company go under, or like my buddy Matt at AE, had some idiot kill you because he didn't know the full signifigance of the "Engine Relight" light and stood on the wrong rudder after feathering a running engine on short final, You'll be able to move onward and upward in an industry that is continuously destabilizing and where pay concessions are an annual event. While you are at this job, you may want to consider something like a Distance Learning MBA course such as one from Herriot Watt Business School through the University of Edinburough. Very respected course, there are others as well. Keep your options for the future open, and good luck.

 

[TNPILOT]

I'm not sure how accepting a job at a regional which doesn't pay very well, but is better than some(not many) is morally wrong. And finally, if I slugged it out flying night freight and instructing would I still be a bastard for accepting the job at a regional? Will the pay suddenly increase with my secret night freight handshake?

The whole point is that Mesa has crappy pay and work rules because people like you plunk down the cash to get to an airline that pays less than industry standard because you have no other options with your experience level and are forced to put up with it. Because of that the rest of us suffer because Mesa undercuts us, threatens to take our flying, and we are forced to either hit the street or come down to your crappy pay scale. So yeah you are partly responsible for ruining the profession.

 

[ratherbeflyen]

What's BS about it? Is it the fact that they have placed over a thousand pilots into the same regional airline with an attrition rate 3x better than hires off the street while in GS, or is it the fact that people who spent 4 years at an aviation university will have to instruct for 2 more years before they get their interviews( i had 3 embry riddle guys in my class)

Thats what's BS about it, they only place people at one regional airline... the worst one. "3X better attrition rate," sure I'll buy that. What were you going to do if you didn't get this job? Nothing? What else are you qualified for?

Congragulations, I hope its everything you thought it would be.

 

[urflyingme?!]

If every single student to graduate San Juan was still at Mesa that wouldn't even be half of the pilot group. As it is they only graduate about 10-20 ab students 3 times a year. As for plunking down the cash I believe that everyone has to pay for their intial training, right?? Bottom line the cost of living was less where I was, and I flew better equipment in a better training enviroment with better instructors for the same price as I was getting in LA. If you believe that San Juan guys are really keeping MESA in business than you are simply delusional. Just because we get an inside track to an airline that you don't like makes us the worst people on Earth eh? Hell I think I saw a MESA FO slap a pregnant woman as she boarded a Skywest flight last week.

About not having any other options though, you are right. I'm thinking that you must not have gotten your comm ticket yet because you would know that there pretty much are no other options out there, so the fact that yes we can go to a regional with 250 is pretty good in my book. There are 50-100 banner tow jobs out there this summer, so U can instruct or buy time until 500 hrs when other jobs will open up. No one said that we can't flight instruct did they? I don't see that on my ticket... "No Flight Insrtructing-CRJ FO MESA AIRLINES ONLY" Riddle guys or UND guys HAVE to flight instruct, which isn't a bad thing, but they don't get what we get so I don't really see your point. If you don't like MESA thats fine by me, but don't be an ignorant jerkoff, because it just looks so sad to see someone say that a flight school is crappy because they only place their students at one regional ok?

 

[Indy refugee]

Make No mistake

Mesa and MAPD, SJU etc. killed ACA.

When UAL declared BK several years ago, they hired your beloved Mesa, an airline they had fired for there piss poor service, to lower the pay at all the UEX carriers.

The pilots at ACA gave a small pay concession, but it wasn't enough, they needed more to compete with Mesa. We refused to work for Mesa wages. This left ACA with no other choice, we proudly started Independence.

While many mistakes were made, Mesa is directly responsible for the life and death of Independence Air. Throughout Independence's short life management constantly came to the pilot group asking for Mesa payrates, work rule and benefits. Each time, we refused. We would rather die than give in to lowering the bar on regional pay.

And so it is, that tomorrow Independence Air will die. But make no mistake, you and your band of San Juan whores helped make it possible. At least we never gave up our pride or our dignity. We drew a line in the sand and we refused to work for less. We refused to work for those wages, and you are proud you were able to pay $30,000 for an interview.

So what's next for you guys at Mesa. I suspect you'll set your sights on AirWis, as you already did once, or Comair. Maybe you can steal their flying, too. But both of those groups have proven they're unwilling to work for Mesa wages. Since they won't win the battle to be the lowest bidder, you'll probably destroy them, too.

Most Indy pilots, including myself, have moved on to bigger and better jobs. I think I volunteer for the pilot interview board. Maybe I'll see you there. You won't get the job. We'll never tell you this, but between the SJU, MAPD and Mesa, we'll find a reason to just say no, one more time.

 

[TNPILOT]

So what's next for you guys at Mesa. I suspect you'll set your sights on AirWis, as you already did once, or Comair. Maybe you can steal their flying, too. But both of those groups have proven they're unwilling to work for Mesa wages. Since they won't win the battle to be the lowest bidder, you'll probably destroy them, too.

Most Indy pilots, including myself, have moved on to bigger and better jobs. I think I volunteer for the pilot interview board. Maybe I'll see you there. You won't get the job. We'll never tell you this, but between the SJU, MAPD and Mesa, we'll find a reason to just say no, one more time.

Or XJT where I work! Well said Indy refugee. You guys at ACA/Indy were always tops. Atleast you can always hold your head high saying you did the right thing. I wish all of you the best.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

I'm not sure how accepting a job at a regional which doesn't pay very well, but is better than some(not many) is morally wrong.

So, still feel this way? Couldn't take it at Mesa?

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Congrats on working for Mesa:erm:

I mean no disrespect man but Mesa is a crappy place to work at. It is a wonderful feeling having a new job but Mesa?

 

[Grey Ghost]

If they offer you some Kool-Aid, just say no thanks! I'll just take the truth!

 

[urflyingme?!]

Theres nothing morally wrong with working for mesa air group. SJC didnt kill anything and I never paid for an interview, anyone who is that foolish in their thinking probably votes hillary.

 

[rogerwilcoout]

Yes it's true, I will interview tommorrow at a regional tommorrow.

Any advice this is my first interview ever for a flight job.

Thanks guys...

If it is Mesa, slip them a 50 spot and you are in .