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exagony

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I wonder if all the airlines would be interested in the names of the ardent anti-union pilots. Since they are so anti-union here why should an airline that have unions welcome them into their ranks?
 
I'd be interested. I left Flexjet a year and a half ago (as a MIGS, thank you very much) and was fortunate to get picked up by a major. I watch the list of upcoming interviewees like a hawk.

Feel free to PM me.
 
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Dooker, I’ll definitely let you know!
 
A ***** just folds under pressure. These back stabbers are taking an active role in under-mining the rest of the pilot group. This can NEVER be forgiven.
 
Asking for a vote may not agree with you but many of the Flexjet pilots are not happy with the IBT You guys are all arrogance and false solidarity Solidarity should be to the people who you work with If they want a vote lets have a vote and may the best representation win

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Be careful how you handle your second attempt at a fake scab list This could be misconstrued as attempting to tamper with the upcoming vote You guys should Never be making such suggestions Lets keep it legal shall we?

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The actual numbers will be revealed soon but I will say the number of those calling for a vote is far more than expected. Why are you so afraid of offering all of the Options to the entire pilot group and letting a vote decide It all seems very American to me. What system would cry out against a vote in order to remain in power.
 
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The actual numbers will be revealed soon but I will say the number of those calling for a vote is far more than expected. Why are you so afraid of offering all of the Options to the entire pilot group and letting a vote decide It all seems very American to me. What system would cry out against a vote in order to remain in power.[/QUOTE]

who is verifying the authenticity of the signatures on the cards you claim to have received? PD and FW could be just scribbling names and employee numbers from the employee address list the company supplied those two misguided clowns
 
MR the problem I have with your statements is the Flexjet guys "who are not happy with the IBT" refused to do anything to work with the IBT. These guys didn't join committees, voice their opinions or even pay their dues. Now I don't have much room to talk but at least I've paid my dues and tried to support the cause as best I can.

The other problem I have is from FW own words the whole point is they intend NOT TO REPRESENT. They intend to basically just get us back to whatever the hell Uncle wants. And then in complete naivete he says if that doesn't work they can start an in-house. As if it will be that easy to get the reins back after handing them off to Kenn. He claims there's enough money and expertise in house to do it alone if we decided to do it. He has also admitted they have no negotiation strategy, isl plan, committee structure, legal representation or commitments from leaders nor do they want to spend time developing them. The statements he is making are so naive, so intellectually incongruent, so brazen etc... I find it hard to believe one person with half a brain would throw their support behind him or any of the others associated with the decert let alone 50% of our pilots. But I do believe there are enough "money" thinkers among our ranks to be worried about how many he'll sway. Flexjet pilots are cheap. So cheap they'll risk exorbitant dues tommorow ( if we want teeth behind our in house) to get out of paying 1.56 today.

On that note, the one statement that makes no sense to me is he is tired of the lack of action on the part of the IBT or a lot of support from the national. Has he been paying attention? Do you realize the cost alone of the legal representation we've received? Since those lawyers are retained by the National it's hard to quantify but trust me we can't even begin to pay it even if all of us were paying dues.

On the one hand he seems to admit that is 100% due to management's stalling techniques through legal trickery since he claims the #1 reason to decertify is that Kenn has said he will never work with the IBT and stops at nothing to defeat them. He knows the problem is Kenn but he seems to think giving into Kenn will solve the problem. What?

I don't get why anyone with half a pair of balls let alone a whole set would take a statement like that and use it as a reason to cower and give in to that kind of bully nonsense. We should take statements like that and have a whole new reason (beyond industry standard unionization) and declare ****ing war on that bull****.

FW is nothing but a coward who feels protected by the bars of his emprisonment. Are you one too?

I for one have had just about enough of this management team. I've had enough of their lies, delays, divisions and disrespect. Why haven't you?
 
Imissmypilot is spot on, If the 1108 were removed as the representative agent for Flexjet within six months there would be a majority of the Flex Pilots crying on this very board how they F***ed up. FW and PD would have any seat in the Company they want making big salaries regardless of seniority, but you can bet it wouldn’t be that way for the majority!,,,
 

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