SWAPA Reps speak out against TA.

[MINIME]

You better hope it's a little more than the FOs. Ie. the reason you need to be unified. Just an observation; while the FAT guys didn't have the contract that SWA had, whatever they had was vehemently fought for. Personal feelings about each other, need to stop at the water's edge. And, useful experience needs to be put to use.

Fletch717, despite any previous back door deals, if any, there is always leverage. It's called staying with your current contract. What you have now is not a bad document. In my view, you can AFFORD to wait the company out. See who needs who first. Lest not forget, SWA has an image to uphold.

 

[HowardBorden]

LOL.. Yeah, right.

I'm flying with a YES! voting FO this trip.

He is ecstatic about the awesome raises and his 2.68 tfp per month "bonus" in lieu of retro, and can't wait to vote YES!

Thinks that the codeshare concessions will really open up the "growth".

Oh, and he's way above a 100K number.

I truly hope you attempted to shed some light on those shortsighted and potentially disastrous misconceptions!

 

[Tripower455]

I truly hope you attempted to shed some light on those shortsighted and potentially disastrous misconceptions!

Of course, but he wouldn't listen. He thinks I am a "radical".

FWIW, this is his first airline gig.

 

[Nindiri]

And that is why GK laughs.

In the very likely event that enough pilots are like that FO and have the SWA Warrior Spirit, it passes and GK wins.

If we vote it down, GK just delays for awhile and enjoys the money he saves until a few more pilots get tired of negotiating. He has plenty of time and can keep chipping away at section one until enough pilots get impatient and give in just to get a raise. Time is on his side. He wins no matter what we do.

 

[Just thinking]

First airline gig......... which F-teen did he fly? LUKE MAFIA?

 

[General Lee]

BINGO, KP. I couldn't agree more. Vote this turd down and sit on your hands for a little while.

Tammy Romo has already tipped their hand to several million in revenue from codeshare. Let them walk those comments back and get back to the table. We have almost iron clad codeshare now. Why give it up for free?

If you guys don't vote this down, you will be the laughing stock. Even the DL pilots, who had NEVER voted one down, did so for the last TA. (Even after PCL, the janitor at the Moak Group, said it would pass) Good luck Red, we are all watching! If it isn't a great deal, send it back!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[PCL_128]

LOL.. Yeah, right.

I'm flying with a YES! voting FO this trip.

He is ecstatic about the awesome raises and his 2.68 tfp per month "bonus" in lieu of retro, and can't wait to vote YES!

Thinks that the codeshare concessions will really open up the "growth".

Oh, and he's way above a 100K number.

Was he dropped on his head as a child, or was it a more recent head trauma?

 

[Tarheelherk]

FAT/FO... NO! Our current Section 1 is the best in the industry, you think I'm stupid to just let it go? Gas Monkey!!!! Pay Up, a lot!

 

[Roomwithaview]

LOL.. Yeah, right.

I'm flying with a YES! voting FO this trip.

He is ecstatic about the awesome raises and his 2.68 tfp per month "bonus" in lieu of retro, and can't wait to vote YES!

Thinks that the codeshare concessions will really open up the "growth".

Oh, and he's way above a 100K number.

What unit?

The retarded AF dudes need to get a clue. Just look at the only base that's recommending a YES!

 

[chris69]

Not just the Luke mafia, lots of new 100k plus FO's are retired mil in general. Flew with a lot of them on AD and in the Reserves. Now they are here. All great guys, but with a wholly diferent perspective. Have flown with quite a few here and they are mostly non commital. But once they hit year 3 or 4 they are looking at the equivalent of Capt pay with their retirement for the rest of their 16-18 years no matter what. Wife gets the contract comp, runs the numbers, uses Tri-care and sees a gross of 18-19k/month plus til retirement and it's over. She dealt with a decade plus of deployments and sacrifice, "honey, you're voting yes, right?"..."Uh, yes dear."

 

[Tripower455]

Not just the Luke mafia, lots of new 100k plus FO's are retired mil in general. Flew with a lot of them on AD and in the Reserves. Now they are here. All great guys, but with a wholly diferent perspective. Have flown with quite a few here and they are mostly non commital. But once they hit year 3 or 4 they are looking at the equivalent of Capt pay with their retirement for the rest of their 16-18 years no matter what. Wife gets the contract comp, runs the numbers, uses Tri-care and sees a gross of 18-19k/month plus til retirement and it's over. She dealt with a decade plus of deployments and sacrifice, "honey, you're voting yes, right?"..."Uh, yes dear."

Awesome.

 

[Ty Webb]

That is why the Unions at other carriers have events for families, so they can get the spouses support as well.

This union (SWAPA) reminds me of the dysfunctional in-house "Association" we had at AT before we voted in ALPA. Hell, they were the reason we voted in ALPA.

 

[Just thinking]

PJ eerily similar to LH..... Vacant in mind, body and intelligence...... Leadership not a prerequisite for taking on the job...... Just some ulterior motive which will come to light eventually.

 

[Phlintstone]

PJ eerily similar to LH..... Vacant in mind, body and intelligence...... Leadership not a prerequisite for taking on the job...... Just some ulterior motive which will come to light eventually.

Isn't that the truth. I am a definite no...and I am one of those retired mil dudes. This is a turd and hope it fails.

Phred

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

LH and SWA Bubba are one and the same.