Status of Citation Latitude for Netjets?

[johnsonrod]

I realize the Latitude will replace current airframes for little/no net fleet growth. Any update on when we will start seeing these on the line? How many total orders/options? Looks like quite an improvement over the XLS in terms of cabin comfort and performance:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjnEHaPVcMY


That pilot looks cool in that video - where can I apply for that job? LOL!

 

[Helmsalee]

Of course it is a big step up from an XLS. It is in the mid-cabin class, i.e. Sovereign.

 

[Semore Butts]

I understand it's the same type as the 680

I don't think it's replacing the Excell.

 

[johnsonrod]

I don't think it's replacing the Excell.

So it is a Sovereign replacement? How soon will see likely see it on the line?

 

[Willy21]

It really isn't a sovereign replacement. It is probably more of a hawker 800xp/900xp replacement. First one should be on property sometime next year.

 

[jtf]

It will replace some Excels, probably most Hawkers, and most Sovereigns. It probably won't be as capable as the Sovereign, but it will do more than the Hawker or Excel and it will be the biggest of the bunch. Wearen't taking any more Sovereigns, Hawkers, or Excels so something has to replace them. I have heard rumors of the company biting the bullet and taking a bunch of XLS+ since nothing else really does the same for the price, but nothing decided yet for the real Excel replacement since it is solidly between the Phenom and the Latitude and the difference between the two is huge.

 

[NJAowner]

From my sales team, I understand it will replace the Sovereign. The Phenom is poaching owners down from the Excel -- much less expensive and about the same capabilities (from an owner's perspective).

 

[Diesel]

From my sales team, I understand it will replace the Sovereign. The Phenom is poaching owners down from the Excel -- much less expensive and about the same capabilities (from an owner's perspective).

minus a standup cabin and apu.

 

[jonjuan]

minus a standup cabin.

Lol-unless Nja owner is Tom Cruise.

 

[Hogprint]

Have they even named a CP yet? I haven't seen any movement on this fleet. Those SDP positions are usually filled a year out.

 

[NJAowner]

Diesel -- you are right on the APU. I do miss it -- but at approx. $1500 per hour difference x 100 hour per year - I would rather have many more flying hours. And I do regularly do to a number of airports where the plane is not on a GPU. I an just slightly under 6' tall -- I do not notice the difference - it must be the configuration because I never liked the Encore/Ultra. Plus the general configuration of the cabin is better if one flies with 5 or 6 pax -- (a) there is more leg room in the 2 seats behind the club seats, (b) catering storage is much, much better, (c) the life raft is integrated in cabinets instead of being strapped to an empty seat, (d) power outlets at every seat, and (e) and now with the iPads, a better entertainment system. So from my seat, I prefer the Phenom to the Excel and it is a good bit less expensive.

 

[Diesel]

Diesel -- you are right on the APU. I do miss it -- but at approx. $1500 per hour difference x 100 hour per year - I would rather have many more flying hours. And I do regularly do to a number of airports where the plane is not on a GPU. I an just slightly under 6' tall -- I do not notice the difference - it must be the configuration because I never liked the Encore/Ultra. Plus the general configuration of the cabin is better if one flies with 5 or 6 pax -- (a) there is more leg room in the 2 seats behind the club seats, (b) catering storage is much, much better, (c) the life raft is integrated in cabinets instead of being strapped to an empty seat, (d) power outlets at every seat, and (e) and now with the iPads, a better entertainment system. So from my seat, I prefer the Phenom to the Excel and it is a good bit less expensive.

You pay the bills so who am I to argue.

 

[NJAowner]

Diesel - what a response?? Put yourself in my shoes (which you may be in soon) -- how much per hour x 100 hours is that worth??

 

[Diesel]

Diesel - what a response?? Put yourself in my shoes (which you may be in soon) -- how much per hour x 100 hours is that worth??

Since I'm stuck in the Lincoln tunnel helix.

For the 30% savings you can buy all those boot and hand warmers for skiing to stay warm on those winter days. .

Although the xl doesn't have a kurig.

 

[NJAowner]

My guess is the pilots will probably make much more use of the Keuring than the pax. I do like it rather than the old coffee.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Have they even named a CP yet? I haven't seen any movement on this fleet. Those SDP positions are usually filled a year out.

The CP of the XL will take on the Latitude

 

[Diesel]

The CP of the XL will take on the Latitude

Is that really a good thing?

 

[Fozzy]

Is that really a good thing?

You won't notice anything if you get my drift

 

[Downwind]

Of course it is a big step up from an XLS. It is in the mid-cabin class, i.e. Sovereign.

The XL/XLS/XLS+ and 680 are the exact same cross section.

 

[Helmsalee]

No way. The 680 is bigger all around.