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Bye Bye---General Lee

Gee thanks for the heads up putz. AND the "advice". One of these days you & Heavyload will realize reg pilots are up to speed on hiring, and also read the same friggin articles you copy/post. But go ahead and feel important dispensing your wisdom putz. You hit 20,000 posts yet? :rolleyes:
 
Gee thanks for the heads up putz. AND the "advice". One of these days you & Heavyload will realize reg pilots are up to speed on hiring, and also read the same friggin articles you copy/post. But go ahead and feel important dispensing your wisdom putz. You hit 20,000 posts yet? :rolleyes:

Some info you find here can't be found with a Google search.
 
Yes. If you listen carefully to Kirby, he stated (misleads) and says - now I'm paraphrasing, "we like the size of the 190 fleet and the markets they are deployed." At that snapshot in time, he portrays "truthieness" but it's misleading because of their future known plans they can't disclose. Months later he states, the 190 fleet with either grow or go away. Then shortly thereafter, the scope issue feeler/distraction-tactic is floated and the APA said, pound sand! The APA, if you follow them closely and know their history well, are ultra-informed and war battle hardened having seen every play in the book and are armed with every analytical tool they need at their disposal. It's all tied together and the pieces of the puzzle, when gathered and arranged, shows a clear picture. Furthermore, the 190 rates will be and are included in the increased rates that will be above current DL rates. We will likely see rates on the 190 for 12 year captains of around $190/hour.

Is this why he wants one more chance to talk with the BOD,
to explain the plan above before next week s deadline.
Interesting to say the least.
 
My APA union will not tolerate anything except an industry leading contract. The times of misinformation, pilot concessions, scope relaxation and lies is OVER. AA will order a lot more small narrowbody, likely 190s, and reduce small RJs. It's the path management is on regardless of what they say in their negotiations. AAG leadership already knows the fleet plans for the foreseeable future and are simply trying to get as much as they can from us. Well, we've already told them only an industry leading contract, IN EVERY WAY, is the only contract we will approve for the world's largest pilot group and most profitable airline. Industry leading pay for all AA pilots will begin on 1 Dec 14.


Do you guys get profit sharing? Rumor has it the DL profit sharing for this year will be 20% of the W2, and on top of that a DC contribution for the profit sharing itself will be 15% of the profit sharing check's value. So, if a DL pilot got $30K in profit sharing, there would be an extra $4500 put into the DC retirement plan as well. Does AA and their "industry leading" pay include profit sharing? 2015 should have even larger profits due to low oil.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Do you guys get profit sharing? Rumor has it the DL profit sharing for this year will be 20% of the W2, and on top of that a DC contribution for the profit sharing itself will be 15% of the profit sharing check's value. So, if a DL pilot got $30K in profit sharing, there would be an extra $4500 put into the DC retirement plan as well. Does AA and their "industry leading" pay include profit sharing? 2015 should have even larger profits due to low oil.



Bye Bye---General Lee

The FA contract TA, whereas the vote ends on 9 Nov 14 (it should pass), does not include profit sharing and is the reason the company does not want to disclose their offer to include profit sharing to the APA until the FA's vote for their new contract (higher than Delta's current FA contract). By the way, me-too clauses for the FAs should have never existed in the first place! There is no comparison to their jobs and our careers. The psychology behind past airline management behavior is too lengthy to discuss but this cat is officially out of the bag.

The APA will have AAG's offer on 12 Nov 14 and show a side-by-side comparison to the pilots to include profit sharing. The earlier offers included Delta + %5 but the APA said no to scope of 81 and to no profit sharing.
 
The FA contract TA, whereas the vote ends on 9 Nov 14 (it should pass), does not include profit sharing and is the reason the company does not want to disclose their offer to include profit sharing to the APA until the FA's vote for their new contract (higher than Delta's current FA contract). By the way, me-too clauses for the FAs should have never existed in the first place! There is no comparison to their jobs and our careers. The psychology behind past airline management behavior is too lengthy to discuss but this cat is officially out of the bag.

The APA will have AAG's offer on 12 Nov 14 and show a side-by-side comparison to the pilots to include profit sharing. The earlier offers included Delta + %5 but the APA said no to scope of 81 and to no profit sharing.

The pay raises then should be significantly better than those at DL as there's talk of profit sharing being in the neighborhood of 25-30% next year with oil way down, (Goldman sacks said $50 next year) debt wiped out and capacity discipline continuing.
 
Oh...the above is too funny:) AA doesn't hedge so good times for now. Not sure what the rates are for Delta and United as I think they're hedged. Hedging is very expensive to do but what do I know? At what rate is the question. As prices drop, they lose - I think. I'll do a little research and check. They both may be paying too much so I wouldn't expect a drop would change their fuel costs or their profit sharing payouts. I was going to try and fit in "crack spread" somewhere in there but it would have been out of place. ;)
 

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