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bsh932 said:
Keep hearing good news coming in November or December. What are you guys hearing?
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Why do you think there's good news on the horizon? The one thing I remember being said a few months back from Inc. was "we're going to become smaller and focus on quality". Do you believe they were not serious?
 
I believe the company was talking about the legacy ExpressJet operation becoming smaller and focusing on quality. Not the entire Inc. umbrella.
 
I hear we are changing blue juice vendors........



Sorry couldnt help it........ no really the rumor i heard is that we are going to start putting the cover sheet on top of the TPS reports BEFORE they go out.


Seriously, the rumor i heard is that Delta asked us WAY back to pick up some more flying. CRJ200 and 900. We told them to pound sand if it was at current book. They refused to play ball. They came back and started negotiations and part of it was Brads resignation (dont know why, but i heard THAT in the spring 2 unrelated sources. One source said Richard Anderson dislikes Brad....again no idea why) the announcement will be more flying at a higher rate and the LXJT side will be shrunken and either sold off or shut down.

Thats just what i heard. Sounds like the typical white noise at this place but some of the things i heard and discounted in the spring have come true.

Its all ball bearings anyway.......
 
COOPERVANE said:
I hear we are changing blue juice vendors........



Sorry couldnt help it........ no really the rumor i heard is that we are going to start putting the cover sheet on top of the TPS reports BEFORE they go out.


Seriously, the rumor i heard is that Delta asked us WAY back to pick up some more flying. CRJ200 and 900. We told them to pound sand if it was at current book. They refused to play ball. They came back and started negotiations and part of it was Brads resignation (dont know why, but i heard THAT in the spring 2 unrelated sources. One source said Richard Anderson dislikes Brad....again no idea why) the announcement will be more flying at a higher rate and the LXJT side will be shrunken and either sold off or shut down.

Thats just what i heard. Sounds like the typical white noise at this place but some of the things i heard and discounted in the spring have come true.

Its all ball bearings anyway.......
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Everyone knows that Endeavor being purchased by Delta was a ploy to put the crunch on other DLC carriers to get their rates down. Could be that time has come to start moving those airplanes out, and shut Endeavor down...As far as the UEX side is concerned, United really seems to think the ERJ-175's are the way of the future...So a bunch of old 145's paired with my guess a crappy contract don't make sense going forward. I think odds are you are on to something with this frame of mind Coop...
 
Mercyful Fate said:
Everyone knows that Endeavor being purchased by Delta was a ploy to put the crunch on other DLC carriers to get their rates down. Could be that time has come to start moving those airplanes out, and shut Endeavor down...As far as the UEX side is concerned, United really seems to think the ERJ-175's are the way of the future...So a bunch of old 145's paired with my guess a crappy contract don't make sense going forward. I think odds are you are on to something with this frame of mind Coop...
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So with your Einstein logic, how would that benefit Delta to get rid of that part of their whipsaw strategy? And why would they want to pay more for someone else to operate them? Shutting down Endeavor would give Skywest the leverage it needs over Delta, and I just don't see Delta being backed into a corner like that
 
gojo said:
So with your Einstein logic, how would that benefit Delta to get rid of that part of their whipsaw strategy? And why would they want to pay more for someone else to operate them? Shutting down Endeavor would give Skywest the leverage it needs over Delta, and I just don't see Delta being backed into a corner like that
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Even through you are being a smartass, I will respond....

Delta is not in the game to own regionals, and the clock has been ticking since day one. Nobody outside of Endeavor is going to fly for those rates, and Delta knows that. SkyWest has a ton of leverage with Delta even if Endeavor never existed, and don't kid yourself otherwise...
 
Mercyful Fate said:
Even through you are being a smartass, I will respond....

Delta is not in the game to own regionals, and the clock has been ticking since day one. Nobody outside of Endeavor is going to fly for those rates, and Delta knows that. SkyWest has a ton of leverage with Delta even if Endeavor never existed, and don't kid yourself otherwise...
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Just like Comair once had leverage over Delta at one time too. I don't see Delta ever letting that happen again. That's why you see overlapping routes by several regionals since the Comair strike. And yes, I was being a bit of a smartass. Sorry
 
gojo said:
Just like Comair once had leverage over Delta at one time too. I don't see Delta ever letting that happen again. That's why you see overlapping routes by several regionals since the Comair strike. And yes, I was being a bit of a smartass. Sorry
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And also why you have regional carriers with multiple code-shares as well. Makes it a lot harder for big brother to walk all over you. Delta has no way of covering all of the flying SkyWest does for Delta, and SkyWest would not go out of business if they lost Delta flying. I would say that is some pretty serious leverage, wouldn't you?
 
Mercyful Fate said:
And also why you have regional carriers with multiple code-shares as well. Makes it a lot harder for big brother to walk all over you. Delta has no way of covering all of the flying SkyWest does for Delta, and SkyWest would not go out of business if they lost Delta flying. I would say that is some pretty serious leverage, wouldn't you?
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Especially when SkyWest OWNS the bulk of those airframes and can do whatever they want with them.
 
Mercyful Fate said:
And also why you have regional carriers with multiple code-shares as well. Makes it a lot harder for big brother to walk all over you. Delta has no way of covering all of the flying SkyWest does for Delta, and SkyWest would not go out of business if they lost Delta flying. I would say that is some pretty serious leverage, wouldn't you?
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I'm not disputing that, but are you suggesting they're about to give them more?
 
gojo said:
I'm not disputing that, but are you suggesting they're about to give them more?
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Who knows....Just like everyone else who is not in upper management, I can only speculate on what is coming down the pike.
 
I heard we might get a new coo. Also heard efbs are coming in fy'17 or '18. And iad might close for the crjs.
 
Reserves are already doing some amount of Endeavor and GoJet flying that they are unable to cover either due to maintenance or staffing. I've been assigned a number of trips that were definitely other airline flying.
 
Either housecleaning or rats jumping ship.

I predict the 145s are history. What do(es) the contract(s) say about furloughs without a single seniority list?
 
Anyone given thought that United has a hand in this and somehow dealing a blow to the competition in terms of pilots going to United? Far fetched possibly but...
 
Freebrd said:
what's that saying about the pot & kettle, hmmm :rolleyes:
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Life was better when you had me blocked. And you of all people have zero room to say anything.
 
XPOO said:
Especially when SkyWest OWNS the bulk of those airframes and can do whatever they want with them.
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Skywest Inc operates 757 aircraft, 554 of which are leased. That leaves 203 of them that are actually owned.
 
Medeco said:
Anyone given thought that United has a hand in this and somehow dealing a blow to the competition in terms of pilots going to United? Far fetched possibly but...
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What. Is United planning on holding us hostage?


Who will fly their RJ feed? We will. Rumor dead.
 
Nevets said:
Skywest Inc operates 757 aircraft, 554 of which are leased. That leaves 203 of them that are actually owned.
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And how many of those leases are SkyWest's and not Delta or United's sublease? What are the odds Republic will be flying an aircraft with SW, SK or SY on the end of it? Hmm?
 
XPOO said:
And how many of those leases are SkyWest's and not Delta or United's sublease? What are the odds Republic will be flying an aircraft with SW, SK or SY on the end of it? Hmm?
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I don't know. I'm sure it just includes all the prorate crj200s, unless you have some other info. I was just posting factual information.
 
Mercyful Fate said:
Even through you are being a smartass, I will respond....

Delta is not in the game to own regionals, and the clock has been ticking since day one. Nobody outside of Endeavor is going to fly for those rates, and Delta knows that. SkyWest has a ton of leverage with Delta even if Endeavor never existed, and don't kid yourself otherwise...
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You dumba$$. There are still 44 more 717s coming, enough to replace tons of RJs, at mainline rates. Why do you guys want to see the Regionals expand? Throw in an app to a legacy or LCC and leave the sinking regionals behind. Well, we know why Mercy doesn't leave, he simply cannot. Too many FAA violations or DUIs or checkride busts, or he's just a lav dumper. It's obvious.

To the rest of you, bail out and get in front of the hiring wave. Otherwise, you'll have to watch Mercy smile with his blue teeth while hand dumping the lav.....



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Nevets said:
I don't know. I'm sure it just includes all the prorate crj200s, unless you have some other info. I was just posting factual information.
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Just saying...Delta can't force anyone to remove an aircraft on contract that they don't own the lease on. As much as that pains the General Lee.
 

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