Boeing behind the curve without 757 replacement...

[johnsonrod]

Time for a 757MAX! Too bad production ended years ago....


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-airbus-seen-needing-replacement-for-757.html

 

[scoreboardII]

It's called the 737-9MAX ER.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

It's called the 737-9MAX ER.

Twin engine B-707?

 

[krewmeel]

Too bad they retired the wrong aircraft....the 737 is an obsolete POS...the A320 variants are superior in almost every way. If they would have made an improved 757 then Boeing would still be competitive in the narrow body market. SWA can be blamed for keeping the 73 alive and the 75 being $hitcanned. Boeing was not even allowed to improve the overhead panel for nextgen because WN didn't want it changed.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

757 would look good in SW colors... and would instantly render the A321 obsolete.

 

[krewmeel]

757 would look good in SW colors... and would instantly render the A321 obsolete.

Yup....I agree.

 

[mesaserf]

The 787 was too little too late. Boeing (Commercial Aircraft) is headed to the dust bin of history.

Sad to see it end.

 

[scoreboardII]

SWA can be blamed for keeping the 73 alive and the 75 being $hitcanned. Boeing was not even allowed to improve the overhead panel for nextgen because WN didn't want it changed.

You're opinion is not based on fact.

Boeing built 10,000 737's, SWA owns 700ish. Do the math.

 

[nimtz]

It's called the 737-9MAX ER.

And it's gonna a be a POS! Thanks Gary and Jeff.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Found this. Made by Photoshop ninja.

 

[lowtimedriver]

Boeing is stupid too because the airlines have been asking them for a 57 replacement for years.

 

[lowtimedriver]

And it's gonna a be a POS! Thanks Gary and Jeff.

Yup, Boeing's version of the MD-90. "Just make it longer and give it new engines". Really?

 

[DCAA320]

757 would look good in SW colors... and would instantly render the A321 obsolete.

Burns too much gas, as for performance, the 757 will eat the 321 for lunch though.

Profit wise, 321 eats the 757, no brainer. Domestically that is.

 

[jonjuan]

Heck, why not just fly around a bunch of pax configured gulf streams around?

 

[cheapgreek]

There nothing to compare with the 757. long legs for a narrow body, good performance from shorts runways,SNA, and great at hot and high airports. I often wondered what new engines could have made the 757 into a 757MAX.

 

[SIG600]

Heck, why not just fly around a bunch of pax configured gulf streams around?

They're called RJ's.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Interesting factoid about the Gulfstream birds, at least up to the new G650:

The fuel system is essentially one big tank with a baffle at the keel separating it into left & right tanks. As a result there is no way to hold fuel out in the wings making the max zero fuel weight very low. The G450 and G550 can only hold about 14 pax and bags without going over MZFW. It is a narrow plane as well, would have been 3 across seating.

But my oh my the performance would be fantastic for an RJ. M.88 and rocket ship climb rates!

 

[jonjuan]

They're called RJ's.

Except for the runway performance, range, payload, and speed, you're correct.

 

[SIG600]

Except for the runway performance, range, payload, and speed, you're correct.

What do you think the original CRJ-200 was? A stretched 601. No sh1t performance is going to suffer, genius. Airlines don't care about that, excess performance just means you're not hauling enough revenue generating weight.

 

[$$$4nothin]

The 787 was too little too late. Boeing (Commercial Aircraft) is headed to the dust bin of history.

Sad to see it end.

The 200+ Boeing orders at Farnborough tend to render your opinion moot. Granted Airbus had 400+. However 200+ commercial aircraft orders at one airshow isn't exactly going to put them out of business.

 

[fr8doggie]

You're opinion is not based on fact.

Boeing built 10,000 737's, SWA owns 700ish. Do the math.

How about 8,000ish?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

You're opinion is not based on fact.

Boeing built 10,000 737's, SWA owns 700ish. Do the math.

Do you think Boeing went to operators of -100s and -200s and asked them what they wanted? They aren't proxy votes.

Who is the biggest operator right now? Who was the launch customer for the -500 and the -700? Who is the launch customer for the MAX?

SWA.

 

[flythere]

You're opinion is not based on fact.

Boeing built 10,000 737's, SWA owns 700ish. Do the math.

It is a fact that SWA and RyanAir are the largest 737 operators in the world!

Stands to reason they would incur large training costs if Boeing altered the systems too much, forcing the feds to require more training for pilots and maintainers!!

By the way, of those 10,000 airframes, how many are still flying for US carriers?

 

[uba757]

The 787 was too little too late. Boeing (Commercial Aircraft) is headed to the dust bin of history.

Sad to see it end.

This is by far the dumbest comment I have ever seen on this board!!!!!!!

 

[whymeworry?]

I don't see it happening, a 757 replacement. Such a bird will be 10 years away, what with the R&D and all. If airlines really want a 757 replacement, they'll order A321s, problem solved.

No need to be a brand-slave and wait for Boeing just because you love Boeing. They messed up when they parked the 757; it's a pretty simple conclusion.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Too bad they retired the wrong aircraft....the 737 is an obsolete POS...the A320 variants are superior in almost every way. If they would have made an improved 757 then Boeing would still be competitive in the narrow body market. SWA can be blamed for keeping the 73 alive and the 75 being $hitcanned. Boeing was not even allowed to improve the overhead panel for nextgen because WN didn't want it changed.

+1 brother

 

[Dornier 335]

There nothing to compare with the 757. long legs for a narrow body, good performance from shorts runways,SNA, and great at hot and high airports. I often wondered what new engines could have made the 757 into a 757MAX.

Remember that the -300 didn't sell as well ...

 

[lowtimedriver]

This is by far the dumbest comment I have ever seen on this board!!!!!!!

Especially when one considers that 37 production has nearly doubled over the last five years. Although a throwback with upgraded technology, Boeing is selling $hitloads of the 37.

 

[HowardBorden]

Especially when one considers that 37 production has nearly doubled over the last five years. Although a throwback with upgraded technology, Boeing is selling $hitloads of the 37.

Love it or hate it, there is a reason for the 737 success, it is a money making machine. It fits more niches than any other aircraft ever made.

The 737 accounts for 60 percent of all Boeing commercial airplanes sold over the past 10 years (2003-2012).

The 737 became the first-ever commercial jet airplane to surpass the 10,000 orders milestone in July 2012 when United Airlines ordered 100 737 MAX 9s and 50 Next-Generation 737-900ERs (Extended Range).

Overall, the entire 737 family is the best-selling commercial jetliner in history, with orders for more than 11,150 airplanes through August 2013 from 265 customers. More than 7,700 737s have been delivered.

With approximately 5,500 airplanes in service, the 737s (early 737s, Classic and Next-Generation) represent a quarter of the total worldwide fleet of large commercial jets flying today.

10,000 737s stacked on top of one another would be approximately 406,000 feet or 77 miles

 

[mesaserf]

This is by far the dumbest comment I have ever seen on this board!!!!!!!

Think big picture buddy. Who has the most backing internationally? A helpful guess would be the aircraft manufacturer that has the most support that is not based on the US of A.

But by the time I'm proven right we will be more interested in keeping our kids fed then who is in first place for aircraft manufacturing.

The petrodollar is in its last gasps.. Good luck to us all.