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Wow, that is seriously crazy.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Sounds like an absolute F'ng nightmare. I would sooner flight instruct then go to that ********************hole part of the world.............Akbar a la animals..........
 
While it seems harsh, and yes it can be...there is/was a reason for some of the somewhat "thorough" rules and regulations in place...takes lots of explaining, not justifying, just explaining why they were perceived to be necessary by somebody...see you later on for a breakdown...
 
While it seems harsh, and yes it can be...there is/was a reason for some of the somewhat "thorough" rules and regulations in place...takes lots of explaining, not justifying, just explaining why they were perceived to be necessary by somebody...see you later on for a breakdown...

Some rules and regulations do make sense, but the above article makes it seem like mostly abuse. Talk about a black eye to that airline.....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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The bad press on QR was limited to those of us within the industry, it is now graduating to the mass media. With the World Cup set to take place in Qatar in 2022, these revelations will continue...which can only be a good thing.

Might get a bit trickier for AA's PR machine down the road with the code-share.

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Wow - sounds like Nazi Germany or North Korea! I hope the pilots are treated a little better.

Sure, we would all love to fly a 787 or A350 one day - but that treatment or workplace culture would cancel out any interest from me............

I guess there are plenty of Boeing or Airbus-rated Indians and Africans who would still jump at that job after reading this horror story because it is better than the one they have. Sometimes the grass is greener - it is all relative...
 
Chatted up a crew in CDG millennium hotel in roissy and they had the fear of Allah in them. Everything in that article was spot on. Very sad indeed.
 
Kinda like the military..stiff rules, you know 'em before you join...nobody is drafted...all volunteers...follow 'em or else...simple really...
 
Sounds like an absolute F'ng nightmare. I would sooner flight instruct then go to that ********************hole part of the world.............Akbar a la animals..........

Could you even point where Qatar is on a map without looking it up? Lame post to write off the entire Middle East based on two potentially disgruntled FAs and a pilot sharing their one-sided story.
 
Could you even point where Qatar is on a map without looking it up? Lame post to write off the entire Middle East based on two potentially disgruntled FAs and a pilot sharing their one-sided story.


It happens unfortunately, and it's not just a couple of employees..but the rules are stiff, and one knows that going in...those who fall afoul are subject to the consequences....
 
Kinda like the military..stiff rules, you know 'em before you join...nobody is drafted...all volunteers...follow 'em or else...simple really...

Except the military has a chain of command, Inspector General, a formalized complaint process, lobbyists in Congress, and has been subject to numerous reforms over the past 50 years including most recently the repeal of DADT. I am sure QA did not spell out al the in and outs of the working conditions there during the hiring process. I have found US companies don't do that either most of the time. There is nothing wrong with trying to improve your working conditions, and if that includes exposing your employer to serve as a warning for others, than so be it.
 
If any of that article is true...and no doubt part of it is, Far be it from me to try and defend.
However in my year here I must say the job has been enjoyable. It has its challenges, yes, but what doesn't? After spending a number of years as widebody Captain, and making over 200k per year, the thought of living in any town, Wisconsin and commuting to Sit reserve in KORD, hoping to score an overnight to Topeka, Kansas...all for what they pay a shift manager at Mcdonalds doesn't sound all that great either.
I check my schedule on Aims...show up at airport and the plane is immaculate, the crews are very professional and enjoy a great route structure. Actually started to write this while at the pool in Bangkok, but got distracted! Living abroad for long periods is tough and for sure I miss many things we take for granted in the USA....... But just wanted to offer a different viewpoint.
 

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