The End of USAPA is finally upon us

[av8tor76]

welcome back Rip...just how long is your beard?

 

[fam62c]

This thing is already a huge mess and now with a third party involved it will be an even bigger mess. This will keep the lawyers busy for a long time.

 

[flygirlqt]

This thing is already a huge mess and now with a third party involved it will be an even bigger mess. This will keep the lawyers busy for a long time.

After this ruling, only if someone is dumb enough to throw money at a lawyer to fight it.
Oh wait we are dealing with usapa.

 

[Carl S.]

Just proves why AAA pilots are the fools of the industry for the last 20 years, emotions over logic, it's a job.....Usapa=third reich of aviation

 

[johnnyb]

In March 2013, a group of West Pilots, on behalf of themselves and others similarly
situated, filed this suit recounting the above facts and alleging USAPA breached its duty of
fair representation “by entering into the MOU with the firm intention of using a date-of-hire
seniority list rather than the Nicolau Award list.” (Doc. 1 at 13). This allegation is

98% yes vote out West now you sue?

 

[Flybywire44]

It's been a good six years or so of circular debates but it finally looks like the end is nigh....

US Airline Pilots Association, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))))
No. CV-13-00471-PHX-ROS
ORDER
This is the third time a group of pilots formerly employed by America West Airlines,
Inc. have been in litigation with their union based on the union allegedly mishandling the
integration of seniority lists. The prior two suits were dismissed as not ripe, and the pilots
may fear a strikeout. Here, though, the pilots claim puts them on first base.
Based on the unique circumstances that developed after the second suit was dismissed,
the motion to dismiss filed by the US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA) will be denied.
In hopes of bringing a swift end to the parties? disputes, the Court will advance the trial on
the merits and consolidate it with a preliminary injunction hearing on September 24, 2013.

BACKGROUND
The parties current disputes began in 2005. That year, pursuant to a Transition
Agreement, US Airways merged with America West Airlines, Inc. (?America West) to
form a single airline. The America West pilots at the time of the merger are generally
referred to as the West Pilots and the US Airways pilots are generally referred to as the East Pilots. After the merger, the West Pilots and East Pilots could not agree on how the two pilot
seniority lists should be integrated and the issue proceeded to arbitration.
The arbitration decision, referred to as the Nicolau Award, was issued on May 1,
2007. The Nicolau Award created an integrated seniority list that placed approximately 500
of the most senior East Pilots at the top of the list but placed at the bottom all of the East
Pilots who were on furlough at the time of the merger. It then blended the remaining pilots.

What is your source? This smells fishy.

 

[Carl S.]

Fishy!!! Read Usapa's legal update and see what smells fishy...Usapa is always manipulating the message for the masses...

 

[Turtle21]

Title does not match events. USAPA is not disappearing anytime soon.

The narrow question Silver is deciding is whether or not USAPA violated its DFR by not including the NIC in the MOU (actually everyone that negotiated and voted for it left it out).

Silver has already telegraphed the answer to that narrow question in the past but she also has come up with some wild rulings of her own. She is unpredictable and there is no telling what will pop out of her court.

 

[becket]

98% yes vote out West now you sue?

YEP!!! The USAPA scabs were too stupid to understand what was happening. They USAPA membership ratified a CBA. TA closed. Nic. in Stone.

It's only been a waste of well over a BILLION dollars to accommodate a bunch of whining, crying scab children. Fk em' They're going to die in the right seat which is one seat better than their career expectations had them in.

 

[General Lee]

What I don't understand is how the top 500 at USAir, all Easties via the NIC, could vote for USAPA and watch 5 or more years of earnings wane thanks to no new contract. They voted themselves out of extra retirement money, and they won't get that back. They would have kept their top 500 seniority, and made a lot more with a joint contract, both paycheck wise and for retirement. Wow, those top 500 made a huge mistake, that will likely be overturned anyway, with nothing to show for it. That's an example of being a "team player" for all the wrong reasons. Oooops.



Bye Bye---General Lee