So, what new procedures from the FAA?

[densoo]

As a result of Asiana accident?

 

[PGTB]

Every approach must have a 30 mile final and coupled to landing.

 

[densoo]

Aircraft will conduct approaches with speed brakes extended so as to keep the engines spooled. In case of missed approach or go around there won't be any spool time required, just stow speed brakes, add some power and reconfigure. Like Tweets.

 

[DYLIN]

Aircraft will conduct approaches with speed brakes extended so as to keep the engines spooled. In case of missed approach or go around there won't be any spool time required, just stow speed brakes, add some power and reconfigure. Like Tweets.

Lockheed actually kind of had that going, in a watered down way, 40 years ago!

 

[LJ45]

new warning system when going below set ref speed. "Check Speed"

This may have helped the crew that stalled the Q400 in BUF also

 

[N1atEcon]

Practice Private pilot skills. On none ILS,VNAV, PAPI,VASI visual approach every 90 days.

 

[densoo]

Will mandate greater use of automation for all approaches, such as, you shall not turn off autopilot until 1000' even on a VFR day and shall not turn off auto throttle until 50'. Boeing will develop software that will override pilots if out parameters below 1000'.

 

[densoo]

new warning system when going below set ref speed. "Check Speed"

Great idea. Surprised they haven't done this yet.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Great idea. Surprised they haven't done this yet.

Keep it simple, just have the computer yell the solution. "Power" or "nose down".

Or the likely they will make mandatory we have to do a visual approache with zero automation the sim.

 

[flyboyike]

Aircraft will conduct approaches with speed brakes extended so as to keep the engines spooled. In case of missed approach or go around there won't be any spool time required, just stow speed brakes, add some power and reconfigure. Like Tweets.

EMBRAER offers something like that on the E-170/175 (don't know about -190/195) for 5.5deg GS approaches. Selecting the 5.5GS switch to the left of the throttles causes the approach to be flown with spoilers up (though I don't recall how far up).

 

[densoo]

Or the likely they will make mandatory we have to do a visual approache with zero automation the sim.

We've been doing this for years, emphasizing what a 3d path "looks" like, external cues, RWxx on fix page and 300' AGL per 1 mile from end, etc. I think the FAA will swing the other way and require path guidance at all times. If it isn't there via ILS/GLS glideslope, then require to build a VNAV path to touchdown zone in FMC so there's always a pointer for the path and flight director must be on.

 

[pilotgolfer]

Don't let 2 Korean pilots fly together in US airspace with pax onboard.

 

[wms]

Every airline has a definition of unstabilized approach and a minimum altitude to go around at if the approach is unstable. Every pilot has gotten unstable during an approach and should've gone around. As an industry we only go around from unstable approaches about 2% of the time which is not good. I think the future emphasis will be on being more willing to go around rather than continue to the runway from an unstable approach.

 

[Flyer1015]

Don't let 2 Korean pilots fly together in US airspace with pax onboard.

Are you serious? Wow

 

[wmuflyguy]

We've been doing this for years, emphasizing what a 3d path "looks" like, external cues, RWxx on fix page and 300' AGL per 1 mile from end, etc. I think the FAA will swing the other way and require path guidance at all times. If it isn't there via ILS/GLS glideslope, then require to build a VNAV path to touchdown zone in FMC so there's always a pointer for the path and flight director must be on.

My last cq had a visual but we had the ils working and the FD. I know at my last company we had to do a no flap visual minus vertical guidance, but that seemed Crj specific due to the flap issues.

 

[SIG600]

How about we do away with REF speeds and just fly AOA?

 

[LearLove]

Practice Private pilot skills. On none ILS,VNAV, PAPI,VASI visual approach every 90 days.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

I think that our skills would be better off/honed doing 15 to 20 minutes each of pattern work/touch and go's in the sim each year than shooting another ILS - the same one into our respective hubs that most guys have been shooting for 20+ years and did 5 times within the past 7 days before said training event.

 

[Dornier 335]

As a result of Asiana accident?

Nothing! Unless it happens again. And again. And again. Maybe then....

 

[LearLove]

EMBRAER offers something like that on the E-170/175 (don't know about -190/195) for 5.5deg GS approaches. Selecting the 5.5GS switch to the left of the throttles causes the approach to be flown with spoilers up (though I don't recall how far up).

Not in any of the 170, 175, 190's I've flown. Is this some kind of Embraer factory option? Maybe for euro carriers that do these in places like the ILS at London City Airport.

 

[Dornier 335]

Practice Private pilot skills. On none ILS,VNAV, PAPI,VASI visual approach every 90 days.

I noticed on my last CFI renewal (~ 9 months ago) that the FAA is moving away from emphasizing stick and rudder skills. Forgot what they are focusing on instead now. Watch out for the pilots trained today. Add the MPL crap/ab initio from Europe and we're in for interesting times. The student can only be as good as the teacher...